08-12-2018, 07:27 PM | #15 | |
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With the hood up you can barely hear anything either, unless you really get in there to listen. Who knows! I'm debating on getting it checked out, but I feel like everybody is gonna hit me with the whole "It's normal" thing. which it just might be. |
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08-12-2018, 07:31 PM | #16 | |
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Yeah, I might just keep driving her like I stole her and see what happens, the motor only has 22k miles on it, Would be a shame if it went anytime soon. I still owe money on the car, just picked it up about a year and a half ago, so I'm hoping nothing too serious breaks on it. but I guess will see. I think the sound is normal, but like I said, the incident at the track has made me pay a little more attention to any sounds in the engine bay and I figured I'd ask around. |
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08-12-2018, 07:50 PM | #17 |
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Didn't mean to worry you, sorry.
I've always listened to my cars regular noises so I can tell right away if it's a new noise. Any new noises I'm not familiar with I get checked out. Engines are expensive so I'd rather pay $100 for a check up now than catch something too late.
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08-13-2018, 08:32 AM | #18 |
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Its fine. As long as your oil was good during your runs and you did not over rev, then you're good.
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08-13-2018, 08:54 AM | #19 | |
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He did over rev, assuming he was shifting around 6400rpm the second to third shift should have been around 76-78mph. Shifting to first at 76mph would spin the engine to 9000+rpm. I would be concerned, even if it was a split second. Stock internals can not handle that rpm. I'm not saying that you absolutely hurt the motor. But if it were my car I would at least change the oil to look for metal. Then pull the heads to inspect the rockers, valves and push rods. The car may still run great with small issues, but small issues can get big real quick.
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08-13-2018, 11:43 AM | #20 | |
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I agree, and if cash wasn’t so tight I probably would get torn down to inspect. I may have a new cam next summer so maybe I’ll wait and pray? I know I probably over revved the motor, I’m just hoping I was slipping the clutch coming out of 2nd and saved it. It all happened so fast I didn’t even get a chance to see what RPM I was at etc... I will get an oil change pretty soon, here’s to hoping. The car runs amazing still, I thought it was a general consensus that the mechanical failure from a money shift was pretty noticeable and very soon. I still managed 2 more hard runs, and a 90km drive back home at highway speeds and the car was great. Ahhhh ****, what a mess up. |
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08-13-2018, 12:02 PM | #21 |
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Would maybe using a better shifter help something like this? LOL sorry OP I hope your mighty LS3 is still okay-fingers crossed pun intended!
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08-13-2018, 12:38 PM | #22 |
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Haha, it was my fault not the shifter, I was nervous and had my hand firmly over the shifter, my buddy was beside me so I felt like I had something to prove and I ****ed up
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08-13-2018, 01:54 PM | #23 |
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Sounds fine to me, but I know that feeling, it will probably keep nagging at you. Personally though Id try to forget it if its running well. If really worried check oil for any metal, send in for oil analysis, and maybe pull valve covers just looking for anything obvious. I wouldnt go any farther than that without more proof of an issue.
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08-13-2018, 02:09 PM | #25 | |
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I get the same way... Check over the oil good, cut open the filter and check it out. I agree with at least pulling the valve covers and checking over the springs, keepers, and rockers. It will only take a couple of hours, but you have the confidence back that everything is okay. Or you find the small problem and get it fixed. By the way, anyone who has ever drag raced a manual (wither they admit it or not) has missed third gear, most end up in fifth or not in gear. Don't beat yourself up too much.
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08-13-2018, 02:20 PM | #26 | |
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Thanks for the reassurance man. I wish I was more confident in my ability to work on motors, I entered the wrong trade, I can turn pipe wrenches, and fix fire protection systems but when it comes to motors it’s so foreign to me I’d be worried about taking it all apart. I’ll have to see what a mechanic would charge to do an inspection, hopefully not too much. |
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08-13-2018, 02:32 PM | #27 | |
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Nothing done to my car except for a grill back everything. I'm typically trapping 185-190 mph or so in the half.....145-150 1/4 mile. (Not a prepped track and DOT tires) Gearing for the start would help, as my car launches like a battleship in mud.... A VW Bug can outrun me to 60 mph, which is about the 1/8 mile for me. 60 mph to 190 mph happens very very quickly.... To date the car has been 225 in the mile but she has a lot more in her... Just need to get everything working together and communicating with each other....
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08-13-2018, 03:00 PM | #28 | |
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There is a specific way to handle the shifter, three ways actually, depending on which shift you are making.... 1-2: Hand wrapped sideways around the shifter with the back of your hand on the passenger side of the knob, fingers wrapped around the drivers side, thumb up...Visualize trying to pull the shifter to you.... 2-3: Palm against the backside (left rear) of the shifter, arm and fingers pointed in the direction of the gate for 2-3. Think right front of the car... Push the shifter away from you towards the right front.... with just your palm... 3-4: Hand wrapped sideways around the shifter with the back of your hand towards the drivers side of the vehicle, thumb down, fingers wrapped around the front and think pull straight back.... 4-5 is the same as 2-3... though most people don't shift into 5th under race conditions.... I do at the big end of the mile... I saw a video about this years ago and it works... I still occasionally miss gears but that's due to the RPM's we spin the motor to more so than technique.... The synchros in my trans have no idea what to do with 9K RPM's... I drive with the above technique at all times now, so much so that it is second nature.... The hand over the top of the shifter with a five finger death grip causes lots of problems. I hope this helps.... I can make photos to demonstrate my meaning if you need.... I'm not always good at explaining tings....
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