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Old 07-23-2018, 09:06 PM   #5531
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As far as axing Buick, I think of it like this:

What percentage of Buicks current buyers would move down to a Chevy, what percentage would move up to a Cadillac, and what percentage would simple go elsewhere. I would guess that there won't be enough in the 2nd to cover the loss in revenue from the 1st. But most would probably just shop elsewhere.
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Old 07-23-2018, 09:11 PM   #5532
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As far as axing Buick, I think of it like this:

What percentage of Buicks current buyers would move down to a Chevy, what percentage would move up to a Cadillac, and what percentage would simple go elsewhere. I would guess that there won't be enough in the 2nd to cover the loss in revenue from the 1st. But most would probably just shop elsewhere.
I just went from a Buick back to a Chevy...
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Old 07-23-2018, 10:15 PM   #5533
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I just went from a Buick back to a Chevy...
:v Well he say Most people, not All people
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Old 07-23-2018, 10:19 PM   #5534
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Old 07-23-2018, 11:35 PM   #5535
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:v Well he say Most people, not All people
Well I Ain’t most people... Never have been, never will be...Always marching to a different drummer...
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:00 AM   #5536
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:58 AM   #5537
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I'm probably going from a GMC back to a Chevrolet in a year or two.
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Old 07-24-2018, 01:07 AM   #5538
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:20 AM   #5539
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It could become irrelevant if it is mismanaged. But there is always room between mainstream and luxury. The trick is developing the content and quality of the vehicle so that it lands in the sweet spot between the two. That has always been Buick’s mission, though it has strayed away from that a time or two. It doesn’t necessarily have to have more features than Chevrolet, but it should present them in a more premium way. The leathers should be of higher quality. The fits and finishes should be of higher quality. The design language should scream premium. But it doesn’t need to have the same quality of materials or even all of the same features of a Cadillac. Cadillac should be cutting edge.

I think Buick is in good hands now. The Regal sportback and the Avenir trim level on the Enclave are great examples of Buick staying in their lane and exciting buyers. If they were just cookie cutter fascia and badge jobs off of Malibu and Traverse, then yes, Buick could become irrelevant.
Doesn't that in a sense handicap Chevrolet though? It has to be nicer than a Chevy, but not as nice as a Cadillac. That to me seems like it puts a cap at how nice a chevy can be
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:32 AM   #5540
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I agree Pontiac and Oldsmobile had to go, but thought Buick should have gone as well. My father went from Olds to Buick and refuses to go to Cadillac, but has considered a few Chevrolet’s. As I said before, GM is lucky people like him exist. Dealers keep treating him like shit, and he refuses to buy anything else. He paid cash for his last 3 cars brand new. I sat with him for two horrible experiences and we walked out. My Honda buying experience was beyond belief good. One day they’ll learn. If my dad wasn’t so stubborn, he’d have a US made Lexus or Acura instead of his Chinese Buick.
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:46 AM   #5541
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GM Ran Olds into the ground Olds was just under Caddy in what they offered, GM dropped the cars that loyal Olds people were buying. In turn they offered nothing in return and those people left GM. My dad would not buy anything other than Olds he thought Chevy was to low rent and didnt like the crap GM was making in 91 when he traded in his 81 Olds Cutlass so he went to the Cougar as he wanted something RWD and as large as the Cutlass. GM mistakes that were made in the late 80's hurt Olds, Pontiac and Buick to the point they had to close 2 of them down and no one would care if Buick was next
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Canceling RWD was a huge mistake as was the severe downsizing.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:00 PM   #5543
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Perhaps your father should have bought a first year Bravada. It was closer to a traditional Olds. And it was ahead of the SUV curve. I still wouldn't mind getting a pre-round logo year. But maybe to re-badge a 2 door S15 Jimmy. The CAFE footprint rules suck. Really, those old cars are more roomy in people's memory.
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I know CAFE was different at the time. It's just such rules make it less likely for companies to make desirable smaller vehicles nowadays. Sorry to digress.
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