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Old 08-03-2018, 10:57 AM   #1
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Road Course and Auto X Cam

Looking for recommendations for a good RC/AX Cam.
Ill lay out my plans
Long tube Headers, HP Oil Pump, C5R chain, Bronze bushing trunnion upgrade, 3 Bolt cam, and eventually E85(tune and sensor).
Maybe a GPI Rod Mod IM not sure yet.

What I have on hand already in the garage:
Long Tube headers with a Z28 dual mode exhaust
ZL1 FPCM, Injectors and Pump (wanna change the pump to a higher flow like Deatshwerks 300c 340LsPH but they have something new coming out soon)
Z28 Diff
Monster clutch set up for a LS3, billet throw out bearing, bleeder, clutch line, remote reservoir with a automatic brake mater cylinder.
LS2 Dampener
Deleted oil cooler kit with 25 row cooler (installed)
168 T Stat (installed)
Z28 CAI (installed)
Bo White S2 TB (installed) thinking a S3 before its over with

I know somethings aren't as important as others like the oil pump and chain according to some but its my piece of mind more than anything. Looking to get into mid to high 4s to the wheels on power.
The big reason is the Gen6s are so fast I wanna be able to keep up a little.
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Old 08-03-2018, 04:18 PM   #2
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Have you ever done an AutoX or Track Day?

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Old 08-04-2018, 01:41 PM   #3
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No never, don't even know what it means really guy??
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:13 AM   #4
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Get a custom one. Don't go over .610 lift, lots of duration, tight LSA, slower ramp lobes, and a good tuner. It should live forever and have good midrange. Most people I know who lost an LS3 had more lift because the tuner didn't do road race vehicles and said it'd be fine and used the same lobe they always do. Do not use a high volume or pressure oil pump. You're wasting your money with aftermarket fuel pumps.
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:15 AM   #5
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Even on E85 for the fuel pump? An only reason I'm thinking oil pump is the motor has 60k on and figure it would be good insurance.
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:43 AM   #6
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I didn't see the E85 part, I don't think you'll be maxed with the ZL1/FPCM/injector but you'll probably be close to the limits of the pump. Dpesn't matter unless you add cubes later. You can swap the oil pump but leave the OEM pressure spring in that comes with the kit. There was a thread on here about blueprinting the oil pump that I used when I replaced it, it ensures the gears are perfectly centered. A good thing to do when road racing and sustained rpm.


You can also shave the heads to up the compression if you're sticking with E85. A RR cam won't have PTV clearance issues.
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Old 08-05-2018, 09:57 AM   #7
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No never, don't even know what it means really guy??
The reason I am asking is because it sounds like you're trying to be faster around an autox and road course with horsepower and that's just not going to work.

5th gens are plenty fast to turn fast lap times but they handle like shit unless you have the 1LE. Also an experienced driver in a bone-stock SS will always beat the noob with a modded car.

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:43 AM   #8
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The reason I am asking is because it sounds like you're trying to be faster around an autox and road course with horsepower and that's just not going to work.

5th gens are plenty fast to turn fast lap times but they handle like shit unless you have the 1LE. Also an experienced driver in a bone-stock SS will always beat the noob with a modded car.

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True that. Best mod is always driver mods followed by good autox tires. Plain and simple.
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The reason I am asking is because it sounds like you're trying to be faster around an autox and road course with horsepower and that's just not going to work.

5th gens are plenty fast to turn fast lap times but they handle like shit unless you have the 1LE. Also an experienced driver in a bone-stock SS will always beat the noob with a modded car.

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I've gotten almost everything 1LE or Z28 in the suspension and I know I need to step up my game on the tires just looking for little more power nothing over the top. An apologize for my come back but your reply did seem a bit condescending.
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Driver mod is nice until a 650hp gutted vette that weighs almost 1k less and has massive aero walks you like you're standing still using a horrible line. Then you go home and spend more money on your obese camaro. It's a vicious cycle.
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Autocross and road are two different animals. I do autocross. Cam I have is a custom stage one that got me another 25 hp and 20 tq and 15 hp more with the tune. Like stock till 2500 then go’s to 6300 and red lines at 7000. Good bottom and mid range tq, which is where these fat cats need the power to get moving coming off autocross turns and onto straights, if the course has any real straight s of any length. Fortunately our courses do here in SoCal.
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Driver mod is nice until a 650hp gutted vette that weighs almost 1k less and has massive aero walks you like you're standing still using a horrible line. Then you go home and spend more money on your obese camaro. It's a vicious cycle.
Those are the same idiots that take their car home in a parts bin rather than driving it home.

Besides, what's more frustrating? Being beaten by a car with 10s of thousands of dollars more into it than you do? Or spending 10s of thousands of dollars modding your car thinking you're so awesome and getting humiliated by someone in a mostly stock Camaro with 150 less hp than you have?

Learn to drive your car first. Its safer for you, your car and the people around you. Speed is a byproduct.

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Old 08-06-2018, 09:07 AM   #13
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I've gotten almost everything 1LE or Z28 in the suspension and I know I need to step up my game on the tires
Tires and wheels. Z/28 wheel sizes > 1LE wheel sizes. You really need to outdo the newer car in this respect, not merely keep pace with it.


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Those are the same idiots that take their car home in a parts bin rather than driving it home.

Besides, what's more frustrating? Being beaten by a car with 10s of thousands of dollars more into it than you do? Or spending 10s of thousands of dollars modding your car thinking you're so awesome and getting humiliated by someone in a mostly stock Camaro with 150 less hp than you have?

Learn to drive your car first. Its safer for you, your car and the people around you. Speed is a byproduct.

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A fast car that goes off the line to pass a slow car on the line is an idiot. I'm learning so much about camshafts and racing.
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