2015 ZL1 v 2016 SS

ender2664 · 08-16-2015, 04:43 PM

Sorry if this has already been discussed but...
I was reading up and saw some info about the 2016 ss beating a 1LE around a track, is that correct?
Given that the 2016 SS can or does have mag ride controll, is lighter on its toes, and has a much better power to weight ratio than it did in 2015 is there really any reason to get the 2015 ZL1 especially considering the premium?

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amerhash28 · 08-16-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ender2664

Sorry if this has already been discussed but...
I was reading up and saw some info about the 2016 ss beating a 1LE around a track, is that correct?
Given that the 2016 SS can or does have mag ride controll, is lighter on its toes, and has a much better power to weight ratio than it did in 2015 is there really any reason to get the 2015 ZL1 especially considering the premium?

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yes it can beat 1LE but ZL1?????seriously?????not a chance bro

Sledgehammer70 · 08-16-2015, 06:29 PM

Supercharged and covered under a warranty is a huge one....

ender2664 · 08-16-2015, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by amerhash28

yes it can beat 1LE but ZL1?????seriously?????not a chance bro

If you look at the 1LE lightning lap time it is only 2% slower around the track than the ZL1. So id imagine the 2016, being faster than the 1LE, is going to be pretty damm close and around 15k less.
If u read what I wrote I never said it was as fast as the ZL1.

ender2664 · 08-16-2015, 08:24 PM

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KMPrenger · 08-16-2015, 08:55 PM

Just depends on what you want.

For me...its 2016 SS over the 2015 ZL1, especially if you are adding MRC to the 2016 SS. Some people would rather have the ZL1 badge with the 580 supercharged horses...but for me the other changes the 16 has over the 15 ZL1 put it on top.

I don't see any reason why the 16 SS with MRC won't handle just as well if not edging out the ZL1. I'd give the ZL1 the straight line advantage of course, but talking 1/4 mile numbers I think the 16 SS with A8 is going to be closer to the 2015 ZL1 than the 2015 SS.

Al O said himself to expect a ZL1 like experience from the SS.

Jeffro19 · 08-16-2015, 09:09 PM

I agree at this point I would get the 2016 SS over the 2015 ZL1. It would be interesting to see a track race between the 2. The 2016 SS will be around 400lbs lighter than the 2015 ZL1. In a straight line it will be close with the new 8 spd.

DWALEX · 08-16-2015, 10:49 PM

interesting! I can't wait to see the performance numbers on the SS?

Curr · 08-17-2015, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Just depends on what you want.

For me...its 2016 SS over the 2015 ZL1, especially if you are adding MRC to the 2016 SS. Some people would rather have the ZL1 badge with the 580 supercharged horses...but for me the other changes the 16 has over the 15 ZL1 put it on top.

I don't see any reason why the 16 SS with MRC won't handle just as well if not edging out the ZL1. I'd give the ZL1 the straight line advantage of course, but talking 1/4 mile numbers I think the 16 SS with A8 is going to be closer to the 2015 ZL1 than the 2015 SS.

Al O said himself to expect a ZL1 like experience from the SS.

Well said, and I completely agree. (and I just like the new 'styling' difference way better).

VADER SS L99 · 08-17-2015, 02:37 PM

I myself am going to wait for the performance #'s and price. Then I'm going to compare vs a discounted left over ZL1 or slightly used ZL1. I'll get whatever has more bang for your buck.

ender2664 · 08-17-2015, 03:04 PM

Vader, that is why I asked. Not trying to knock the ZL1 at all, I love that car. I got a pretty good offer to buy one and just want to make sure im taking everything into account before making my final decision.

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JacobC1983 · 08-17-2015, 05:30 PM

As an owner of a ZL1, I look forward to the new SS. I think the new SS will be more fun to drive than the ZL1 -- my wife has a 2013 Cadillac ATS with the 3.6L V6 that shares the chassis with the new SS. That car is easier to throw around in the corners and is more confidence inspiring on twisty roads than my ZL1 is. I know I can take more speed through the corners with my ZL1, but you get a feeling driving the ATS that really transfers to the driver what the car is doing. Granted, the ZL1 is far more fun in a straight line, but throwing a 450hp V8 in my wife's car would be a wonderful all around toy. I can't wait for the new SS. It is amazing how much lighter, more nimble and enjoyable the ATS feels.

ender2664 · 08-17-2015, 07:04 PM

Jacob thank you very much for you honest and thorough analysis. It is a big help in my decision making.

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08-16-2015, 04:43 PM	#1
ender2664 Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 2,353	2015 ZL1 v 2016 SS Sorry if this has already been discussed but... I was reading up and saw some info about the 2016 ss beating a 1LE around a track, is that correct? Given that the 2016 SS can or does have mag ride controll, is lighter on its toes, and has a much better power to weight ratio than it did in 2015 is there really any reason to get the 2015 ZL1 especially considering the premium? Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

08-16-2015, 06:29 PM	#3
Sledgehammer70 Lethal Camaro Drives: 16 2SS, 71 Std, Suburban RTS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 3,855 View My Garage	Supercharged and covered under a warranty is a huge one.... __________________ Thanks My Build Thread \| Lethal Garage YouTube \| Lethal Camaro IG \|

08-16-2015, 08:55 PM	#6
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,944	Just depends on what you want. For me...its 2016 SS over the 2015 ZL1, especially if you are adding MRC to the 2016 SS. Some people would rather have the ZL1 badge with the 580 supercharged horses...but for me the other changes the 16 has over the 15 ZL1 put it on top. I don't see any reason why the 16 SS with MRC won't handle just as well if not edging out the ZL1. I'd give the ZL1 the straight line advantage of course, but talking 1/4 mile numbers I think the 16 SS with A8 is going to be closer to the 2015 ZL1 than the 2015 SS. Al O said himself to expect a ZL1 like experience from the SS. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

08-16-2015, 09:09 PM	#7
Jeffro19 Drives: 2018 ZL1 6M, Silverado High Country Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,101	I agree at this point I would get the 2016 SS over the 2015 ZL1. It would be interesting to see a track race between the 2. The 2016 SS will be around 400lbs lighter than the 2015 ZL1. In a straight line it will be close with the new 8 spd. __________________ Previous Camaro's - 2002 Z28 6 spd manual, T tops, Sebring Silver - 2010 2SS 6 spd manual, Cyber Gray Metallic Current Vehicles - 2018 ZL1 Red Hot 6 spd manual, Carbon Hood, Sunroof 2019 Silverado High Country, Daily Driver

08-16-2015, 10:49 PM	#8
DWALEX Drives: Currently 2016-2SS, Future ZL1/Z28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 978	interesting! I can't wait to see the performance numbers on the SS? __________________ ...First CAMARO (2SS/RS 2010)

08-16-2015, 08:24 PM	#5
ender2664 Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 2,353	I Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

08-17-2015, 02:37 PM	#10
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I myself am going to wait for the performance #'s and price. Then I'm going to compare vs a discounted left over ZL1 or slightly used ZL1. I'll get whatever has more bang for your buck. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

08-17-2015, 03:04 PM	#11
ender2664 Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 2,353	Vader, that is why I asked. Not trying to knock the ZL1 at all, I love that car. I got a pretty good offer to buy one and just want to make sure im taking everything into account before making my final decision. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

08-17-2015, 05:30 PM	#12
JacobC1983 Drives: 2019 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Missouri Posts: 488	As an owner of a ZL1, I look forward to the new SS. I think the new SS will be more fun to drive than the ZL1 -- my wife has a 2013 Cadillac ATS with the 3.6L V6 that shares the chassis with the new SS. That car is easier to throw around in the corners and is more confidence inspiring on twisty roads than my ZL1 is. I know I can take more speed through the corners with my ZL1, but you get a feeling driving the ATS that really transfers to the driver what the car is doing. Granted, the ZL1 is far more fun in a straight line, but throwing a 450hp V8 in my wife's car would be a wonderful all around toy. I can't wait for the new SS. It is amazing how much lighter, more nimble and enjoyable the ATS feels.

08-17-2015, 07:04 PM	#13
ender2664 Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 2,353	Jacob thank you very much for you honest and thorough analysis. It is a big help in my decision making. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

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