Rod modded and ported LS3 intake or ported FAST LSXR 102 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

13SSCamaro · 05-31-2018, 07:13 AM

So i am about to order the final parts for my 2nd big upgrade on my car. Current mods are:

2013 SS 6-speed Manual, TSP Stage 3 231/246 cam kit, TSP Trunion upgrade, Cold Air Inductions CAI, VMAX PTB, TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers and high flow cats, Corsa Xtreme ZL1 Catback exhaust, Elite E2-X Catch can 487rwhp/441rwtq

What I am about to install:
Milled Trick Flow Gen-X 255 heads, 850 injectors, Flex sensor and E-85

I also am doing a Intake and was completely set on a GPI rod modded and ported LS3 intake until my friend offered me his almost new FAST LSXR 102 that has been ported by Vengeance Racing to a 105 for $800. Is it worth it? I have done a ton of research and seen that typically the stock LS3 intake is damn good and a rod modded and ported one is even better. But I am having a hard time finding a comparison of a modded stock LS3 intake vs a Ported FAST in conjunction with the Trick Flow GEN X 255 heads. I am not looking to go over 7,000 rpm and I am not looking for peak power with the intake, I want to increase power overall and not lose torque on the low end. Anyone on here with solid info to help me make a decision?

frankwjr · 05-31-2018, 08:58 AM

Based on your mods and the direction ur headin the Fast will take you further than a stock...I would also be thinkin about a bigger tb to match the intake...

so as far as low end tq that ship left the port as soon as you did the cam...IMHO...and with the addition of the heads even more so....embrace your combo and set the rev limiter to 7200! you have all the req upgrades to do so with ease. your shift point should be in the 6800 to 7k range...

if I were you I would be givin serious thought to upgradin the rear to at least a 3.91...world of difference! also sum basic rear suspension mods to stop the inevitable hop.

good luck!

peace

lazerlemonta · 05-31-2018, 09:20 AM

Just keep the stock intake. Your not utilizing what you have if your not going to spin it over 7k. This is where your car will have gained the utmost performance and your just going to let that power do nothing but take a ciesta

Bo White · 05-31-2018, 09:26 AM

Between the two Ive seen the largest gains with a ported FAST but look at the money it takes.

13SSCamaro · 05-31-2018, 10:18 AM

3.91 gears, axles and suspension mods are soon after. I was concerned with spinning too high and risking damaging the stock bottom end, still not sure I want to take that risk. I am at a point where I can spend around $450-$500 for a rod modded and ported stock intake or pay $800 for a ported FAST 102 and then have the option to sell my stock one so the difference of cost is gonna be less than $200. Just trying to make a decision hopefully today before the intake sells.

lazerlemonta · 05-31-2018, 11:07 AM

I can say i have taken my LS3 to 7900 more then a few times on a no lift shift an no issues. GM reset the limiter them self to 7k when you by the upgrade LS3 package in their tune. Numerous guys spin them over 7400. These are not 1980 SBC. They have good parts in the bottom end and you already have valve springs for good control. The fast is a no brainer with your set up. I seen this intake for sale off a boosted vet in the west palm area but he wanted to much money for it. Get you a Holley 105 Tb later down the road and let it eat.

sinisterlsx510 · 06-01-2018, 08:13 PM

Im on the same boat as u.. debating whether to buy a fast 102 or do rod mod... im gonna be adding a cam soon so might as well do everything at once

13SSCamaro · 06-02-2018, 01:12 PM

Well my buddy sold the FAST 102 already. I am on the fence on what to do or where the money will be spent best. Do I go with the FAST 102 or do the rod mod and ported LS3 and use the extra money to go 3.91 gears. If only i was rich and could do it all

jc615 · 06-02-2018, 02:05 PM

I'll have a max port and rod mod intake for sale in next two weeks. Going different route with victor intake

sinisterlsx510 · 06-02-2018, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc615

I'll have a max port and rod mod intake for sale in next two weeks. Going different route with victor intake

Send me a pm if u tryna get rid of it

christianchevell · 06-03-2018, 10:20 AM

realistically stock cubes you most likely would not have gained much and lost some bottom end torque anyway and had to buy a Nick Williams TB......

gm2376 · 06-03-2018, 11:06 AM

do the rod mod....I wouldnt go fast unless you plan on adding a supercharger

lazerlemonta · 06-03-2018, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gm2376

do the rod mod....I wouldnt go fast unless you plan on adding a supercharger

And this is why the average 5th gen is in the 12s lol

saluki · 06-03-2018, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazerlemonta

And this is why the average 5th gen is in the 12s lol

Bro that stretching bulge is just added intake volume. Lmao

05-31-2018, 07:13 AM	#1
13SSCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 254	Rod modded and ported LS3 intake or ported FAST LSXR 102 So i am about to order the final parts for my 2nd big upgrade on my car. Current mods are: 2013 SS 6-speed Manual, TSP Stage 3 231/246 cam kit, TSP Trunion upgrade, Cold Air Inductions CAI, VMAX PTB, TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers and high flow cats, Corsa Xtreme ZL1 Catback exhaust, Elite E2-X Catch can 487rwhp/441rwtq What I am about to install: Milled Trick Flow Gen-X 255 heads, 850 injectors, Flex sensor and E-85 I also am doing a Intake and was completely set on a GPI rod modded and ported LS3 intake until my friend offered me his almost new FAST LSXR 102 that has been ported by Vengeance Racing to a 105 for $800. Is it worth it? I have done a ton of research and seen that typically the stock LS3 intake is damn good and a rod modded and ported one is even better. But I am having a hard time finding a comparison of a modded stock LS3 intake vs a Ported FAST in conjunction with the Trick Flow GEN X 255 heads. I am not looking to go over 7,000 rpm and I am not looking for peak power with the intake, I want to increase power overall and not lose torque on the low end. Anyone on here with solid info to help me make a decision? __________________ 2013 SS M6, TSP Stage 3 231/246 cam kit, TSP Trunion upgrade, Cold Air Inductions CAI, VMAX PTB, TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers and high flow cats, Corsa Xtreme ZL1 Catback exhaust, Elite E2-X Catch can, Trick Flow Gen-X 255 heads milled 0.025 and valve job, GPI rod mod and ported intake, ID850 injectors,ZL1 fuel pump, Flex sensor and E-85, Mantic 9000 and 1LE 3.91 diff 512rwhp/462rwtq

05-31-2018, 08:58 AM	#2
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,446	Based on your mods and the direction ur headin the Fast will take you further than a stock...I would also be thinkin about a bigger tb to match the intake... so as far as low end tq that ship left the port as soon as you did the cam...IMHO...and with the addition of the heads even more so....embrace your combo and set the rev limiter to 7200! you have all the req upgrades to do so with ease. your shift point should be in the 6800 to 7k range... if I were you I would be givin serious thought to upgradin the rear to at least a 3.91...world of difference! also sum basic rear suspension mods to stop the inevitable hop. good luck! peace __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

05-31-2018, 09:20 AM	#3
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 879 View My Garage	Just keep the stock intake. Your not utilizing what you have if your not going to spin it over 7k. This is where your car will have gained the utmost performance and your just going to let that power do nothing but take a ciesta __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

05-31-2018, 09:26 AM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Between the two Ive seen the largest gains with a ported FAST but look at the money it takes. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

05-31-2018, 10:18 AM	#5
13SSCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 254	3.91 gears, axles and suspension mods are soon after. I was concerned with spinning too high and risking damaging the stock bottom end, still not sure I want to take that risk. I am at a point where I can spend around $450-$500 for a rod modded and ported stock intake or pay $800 for a ported FAST 102 and then have the option to sell my stock one so the difference of cost is gonna be less than $200. Just trying to make a decision hopefully today before the intake sells. __________________ 2013 SS M6, TSP Stage 3 231/246 cam kit, TSP Trunion upgrade, Cold Air Inductions CAI, VMAX PTB, TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers and high flow cats, Corsa Xtreme ZL1 Catback exhaust, Elite E2-X Catch can, Trick Flow Gen-X 255 heads milled 0.025 and valve job, GPI rod mod and ported intake, ID850 injectors,ZL1 fuel pump, Flex sensor and E-85, Mantic 9000 and 1LE 3.91 diff 512rwhp/462rwtq

05-31-2018, 11:07 AM	#6
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 879 View My Garage	I can say i have taken my LS3 to 7900 more then a few times on a no lift shift an no issues. GM reset the limiter them self to 7k when you by the upgrade LS3 package in their tune. Numerous guys spin them over 7400. These are not 1980 SBC. They have good parts in the bottom end and you already have valve springs for good control. The fast is a no brainer with your set up. I seen this intake for sale off a boosted vet in the west palm area but he wanted to much money for it. Get you a Holley 105 Tb later down the road and let it eat. __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

06-01-2018, 08:13 PM	#7
sinisterlsx510 Drives: 14 ss camaro summit white Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: bay area Posts: 463	Im on the same boat as u.. debating whether to buy a fast 102 or do rod mod... im gonna be adding a cam soon so might as well do everything at once __________________ 2014 ss camaro Stainless works long tubes , rotofab cai , vararam wedge , muffler delete,cat delete ,resonator delete , x pipe 2019 sierra duramax 2500 all terrain x 2001 trans am Lsx 408 ci rebuild in progress(dead project) 1967 camaro Sbc 327.

06-02-2018, 01:12 PM	#8
13SSCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 254	Well my buddy sold the FAST 102 already. I am on the fence on what to do or where the money will be spent best. Do I go with the FAST 102 or do the rod mod and ported LS3 and use the extra money to go 3.91 gears. If only i was rich and could do it all __________________ 2013 SS M6, TSP Stage 3 231/246 cam kit, TSP Trunion upgrade, Cold Air Inductions CAI, VMAX PTB, TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers and high flow cats, Corsa Xtreme ZL1 Catback exhaust, Elite E2-X Catch can, Trick Flow Gen-X 255 heads milled 0.025 and valve job, GPI rod mod and ported intake, ID850 injectors,ZL1 fuel pump, Flex sensor and E-85, Mantic 9000 and 1LE 3.91 diff 512rwhp/462rwtq

06-02-2018, 02:05 PM	#9
jc615 Account Suspended Drives: Camaro and Sierra Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 795	I'll have a max port and rod mod intake for sale in next two weeks. Going different route with victor intake

06-03-2018, 10:20 AM	#11
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,588 View My Garage	realistically stock cubes you most likely would not have gained much and lost some bottom end torque anyway and had to buy a Nick Williams TB...... __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

06-03-2018, 11:06 AM	#12
gm2376 Drives: 2010 Black 2ss Camaro SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 1,060	do the rod mod....I wouldnt go fast unless you plan on adding a supercharger __________________ ZL1 10 spokes,Dart 388,ECS Supercharger 2200x, E85 Flex Fuel sensor, Dart 388 , B&M Tranny Cooler, Vigilante 4000 Triple Disc TC,Katech Ported Heads, Texas Speed Sheet Metal Intake, ECS Big Blower Cam,ID 1700s, Fore Triple Pumps, E85,ATI Super Dampner, KW V3 Coilovers, Pfadt front and rear sway bars,Pfadt Trailing arms and toe rods,ZL1 Rear Diff, RPM 6l90e level 10 Tranny, SW Long Tubes no cats,Nick Williams Boosted 102mm TB, Dr Phil Tune,Borla Atak