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Dans2SS · 10-07-2009, 11:38 AM

Ok so for anyone w/ a M6. What does your car idle at? This is more of a sanity check. I can't really be the only one right?

Mine will idle at 500RPM which to me seems low. Couple this with the narrow window of engagement on the clutch and damn if I don't stall this car like a 16yr old learning how to drive. Before anyone says it I've driven manuals since day 1. 6 in all and this is my 4th with a hydraulic clutch. I traded a 2006 GTO M6 in for it. And that car was a snap.

Anyway on the GTO and my truck they both idled at 750 and you could fell the clutch as it engaged and they were easy to drive. The Camaro idles so low as soon as I feel the clutch start to come in it is almost fully engaged and the car is trying to stall. I'm sure i'll get a better feel of the pedal as it comes in. hills have been pissing me off though. On one, when I need to give extra gas I keep slipping the clutch too much and smelling up the place.

Anyone else seeing this? I'm thinking about getting the predator and tuning up the idle some.

Michael_Js · 10-07-2009, 12:12 PM

I haven't paid attention to idle RPMs...but I have no issue with starts from 1st. Sounds like you need to raise her up a bit

Dans2SS · 10-07-2009, 12:16 PM

I might have painted the picture a little too gloomy. I've had a couple issues coming off hills. One was ridiculously steep. Other times I'd like to come off from a stop a little smoother. I can launch her hard with no issue.

Maybe I should just to that all the time.

BTW I noticed the RPM because I was sitting at a light and it stumbled like it was going to quit. When I looked down it was at 500 and I thought something was wrong. then I watched and it stayed there. Every now and then it drops just below that and gives a rough spot.

FredSS · 10-07-2009, 12:29 PM

Mines about 750 until it warms up then its about like you said around 500.

POWERFREAK · 10-07-2009, 12:30 PM

mine's @ 500rpm.

clutch just takes some getting used to...especially on hills.

Crowley · 10-07-2009, 01:13 PM

Mine idles around 500 rpm.

Crowley

2010 2-Tone · 10-07-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowley

Mine idles around 500 rpm.

Crowley

Hey Crowley,
I bet yours don't stay at 500 long with the work you have done!!!!

Oldrocker · 10-07-2009, 01:40 PM

You should start accelerating while releasing the clutch so idle RPM would be irrelevant.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-07-2009, 02:06 PM

Same for me it is 500 or so and it dos take some time to learn.

Dans2SS · 10-07-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldrocker

You should start accelerating while releasing the clutch so idle RPM would be irrelevant.

I don't see the need to rev it up though (though I'm starting to see it now). I like to let out of the clutch and feel it start to grab then feather in the throttle. What I'm finding it the clutch catch in such a narrow range on the clutch that it starts to bog a little quicker than my other cars. But when you idle at 500 any bog puts you in stall range. Try to give it throttle too early especially on the hillls and that is when I get he whispy smell of clutch.

I guess I'll figure it out. Just a pain in the butt.

I'm finding myself to drive it like all the Mustang guys I made fun of for all these years. Blipping the throttle to wake her up and then rolling into it.

PAUL SS · 10-07-2009, 05:29 PM

Mine seems to be around 600. At first I was a little timid when engaging the clutch, but now I just push one pedal down and bring the other one up. You drive the car, it doesn't control you.

2010 CAMARO SS RS · 10-07-2009, 08:11 PM

my audi a8l idles at about 700 rpm!?!?!?!?! the camaro my cousin has idles at about 600

hamidar05 · 10-07-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dans2SS

I don't see the need to rev it up though (though I'm starting to see it now). I like to let out of the clutch and feel it start to grab then feather in the throttle. What I'm finding it the clutch catch in such a narrow range on the clutch that it starts to bog a little quicker than my other cars. But when you idle at 500 any bog puts you in stall range. Try to give it throttle too early especially on the hillls and that is when I get he whispy smell of clutch.

I guess I'll figure it out. Just a pain in the butt.

I'm finding myself to drive it like all the Mustang guys I made fun of for all these years. Blipping the throttle to wake her up and then rolling into it.

I told JD Power this clutch sucks... I had a 70 Mach 1 manual, and it was consistent... non-hydraulic... this thing is like rolling the dice at different RPMs.. and you shouldn't have to heel toe it.....

cheaplabor · 10-09-2009, 06:58 PM

my wife bugs me cause i stalled ours a couple of times also, i have size 12.5 feet which dont fit well in the foot wells. cowboy boots don't help either!
my fourth gen was so easy it just about drove itself, my heel could stay in one place and i could push the clutch in with my toes, i drove my cousins
cts-v and it is also very easy, this car is kinda wierd to get used to. embarassing, lighting up 20's is expensive....and cool

10-07-2009, 11:38 AM	#1
Dans2SS Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 145	I swear I've driven a manual car before. Ok so for anyone w/ a M6. What does your car idle at? This is more of a sanity check. I can't really be the only one right? Mine will idle at 500RPM which to me seems low. Couple this with the narrow window of engagement on the clutch and damn if I don't stall this car like a 16yr old learning how to drive. Before anyone says it I've driven manuals since day 1. 6 in all and this is my 4th with a hydraulic clutch. I traded a 2006 GTO M6 in for it. And that car was a snap. Anyway on the GTO and my truck they both idled at 750 and you could fell the clutch as it engaged and they were easy to drive. The Camaro idles so low as soon as I feel the clutch start to come in it is almost fully engaged and the car is trying to stall. I'm sure i'll get a better feel of the pedal as it comes in. hills have been pissing me off though. On one, when I need to give extra gas I keep slipping the clutch too much and smelling up the place. Anyone else seeing this? I'm thinking about getting the predator and tuning up the idle some. __________________

10-07-2009, 12:12 PM	#2
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	I haven't paid attention to idle RPMs...but I have no issue with starts from 1st. Sounds like you need to raise her up a bit __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

10-07-2009, 12:16 PM	#3
Dans2SS Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 145	I might have painted the picture a little too gloomy. I've had a couple issues coming off hills. One was ridiculously steep. Other times I'd like to come off from a stop a little smoother. I can launch her hard with no issue. Maybe I should just to that all the time. BTW I noticed the RPM because I was sitting at a light and it stumbled like it was going to quit. When I looked down it was at 500 and I thought something was wrong. then I watched and it stayed there. Every now and then it drops just below that and gives a rough spot. __________________

10-07-2009, 12:30 PM	#5
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS/A6 cammed-n-whippled Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,638	mine's @ 500rpm. clutch just takes some getting used to...especially on hills. __________________ NY5thgen.com

10-07-2009, 01:13 PM	#6
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,568 View My Garage	Mine idles around 500 rpm. Crowley __________________

10-07-2009, 12:29 PM	#4
FredSS Drives: 2013 Red Tint Metalic 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Allen Texas Posts: 51 View My Garage	Mines about 750 until it warms up then its about like you said around 500.

10-07-2009, 01:40 PM	#8
Oldrocker Drives: 2010 SS2/RS Victory Red Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Here and Now Posts: 387	You should start accelerating while releasing the clutch so idle RPM would be irrelevant.

10-07-2009, 02:06 PM	#9
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Same for me it is 500 or so and it dos take some time to learn.

10-07-2009, 05:29 PM	#11
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	Mine seems to be around 600. At first I was a little timid when engaging the clutch, but now I just push one pedal down and bring the other one up. You drive the car, it doesn't control you. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

10-07-2009, 08:11 PM	#12
2010 CAMARO SS RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 141	my audi a8l idles at about 700 rpm!?!?!?!?! the camaro my cousin has idles at about 600

10-09-2009, 06:58 PM	#14
cheaplabor It the toybox 4 winter Drives: LSA 68f100 pickup/2010 rs/2ss abm Join Date: May 2009 Location: okotoks,alberta, canada Posts: 270	my wife bugs me cause i stalled ours a couple of times also, i have size 12.5 feet which dont fit well in the foot wells. cowboy boots don't help either! my fourth gen was so easy it just about drove itself, my heel could stay in one place and i could push the clutch in with my toes, i drove my cousins cts-v and it is also very easy, this car is kinda wierd to get used to. embarassing, lighting up 20's is expensive....and cool

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