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Vanishing Point · 06-11-2019, 11:46 AM

Thanks Brother. Wishing you all success, big power and minimal issues.

When it comes to these things the waiting is hard, but you just want it done right and so nothing else to do but wait patiently. A racing crew could probably have it done right in a couple hours. It can be done both quickly and right, but if you have to pick one you hold your tongue, flip calendar pages and be patient. My experience anyway.

I used to do this type of work in the winter when I lived in Michigan. Now that I live in DFW (and likely you in Florida) summer is the worst time of year to be out, thus probably the best time of the year to get project work done, so that makes waiting in June-September better than waiting any other months. Silver linings. I can drop top all winter.

litle88 · 06-19-2019, 06:05 AM

Any updates?

2NASSTY · 06-19-2019, 11:13 PM

Looks like this is already happening.
https://www.instagram.com/p/By31UCMH...=183xuxph9s5wf

mrvenicess · 06-20-2019, 06:26 AM

We are slowly getting everything together. Have to fab up an intake.

litle88 · 06-20-2019, 08:45 AM

Got some pics bud? What modifications did you have to do to make it all fit? I know the hood won’t fit. Will you all be making a plastic or metal intake? It does sound mean AF.

rpol78 · 06-20-2019, 01:04 PM

Here's the specs on it

http://www.magnusonsuperchargers.com...-26-153-bl.htm

litle88 · 06-20-2019, 01:55 PM

I know the specs BUT an install tells exactly.

390ciSCed · 06-24-2019, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mrvenicess

We are slowly getting everything together. Have to fab up an intake.

What intake did Fountain use for the engine dyno testing?

390ciSCed · 06-24-2019, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rpol78

Here's the specs on it

http://www.magnusonsuperchargers.com...-26-153-bl.htm

2.26" taller than the Harrop....damn thats a tall SC'er......

390ciSCed · 06-24-2019, 11:44 PM

I decided to go Procharger F1X. Should make an easy 1,400 RWHP and the same basic labor to install it all....and total price as the 2650. A guy in New Zealand just built an all out 427ci with the Harrop 2650....could only get 1,130 RWHP and that was spinning it well past the TVS recommendation. A2W intercooler, big cam, Mast heads, I think a 105mm TB and ported SC'er intake, 2" headers and the 2" Harrop spacer.

Still kickass RWHP, but just not enough these days.

mrvenicess · 06-25-2019, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 390ciSCed

What intake did Fountain use for the engine dyno testing?

He didn't. Ran it without an intake.

Vanishing Point · 06-26-2019, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 390ciSCed

I decided to go Procharger F1X. Should make an easy 1,400 RWHP and the same basic labor to install it all....and total price as the 2650. A guy in New Zealand just built an all out 427ci with the Harrop 2650....could only get 1,130 RWHP and that was spinning it well past the TVS recommendation. A2W intercooler, big cam, Mast heads, I think a 105mm TB and ported SC'er intake, 2" headers and the 2" Harrop spacer.

Still kickass RWHP, but just not enough these days.

One of my concerns is fan noise. On some blowers it can be an irritatingly overwhelming (and not pleasant like engine noise) inescapably dominating force to negatively affect every driving experience. The F1X is a sorta big blower. It’s power seems exactly what I’m seeking. I could leave it at around a grand but have the option to go higher should I decide to with a pulley change. (Reliability is suspect). I just worry about that vacuum cleaner sound ruining the experience. I think a roots will be much quieter. I can’t say for sure though. Of course that’s relatively easily figured out for sure by hearing some cars with each installed, which is on my to do list. I’m just narrowing down the other factors first to make sure I’m seeking to hear models that pass the power/fit/reliability, etc considerations first.

Have you considered sound? Have you listened to the units before you decided, or will that be a possible surprise for you?

390ciSCed · 06-26-2019, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvenicess

He didn't. Ran it without an intake.

Ok cool. The intake they use in Aussie for the GTO is really good....they picked up I think 24 HP by switching to that over an opened up TB........

390ciSCed · 06-26-2019, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanishing Point

One of my concerns is fan noise. On some blowers it can be an irritatingly overwhelming (and not pleasant like engine noise) inescapably dominating force to negatively affect every driving experience. The F1X is a sorta big blower. It’s power seems exactly what I’m seeking. I could leave it at around a grand but have the option to go higher should I decide to with a pulley change. (Reliability is suspect). I just worry about that vacuum cleaner sound ruining the experience. I think a roots will be much quieter. I can’t say for sure though. Of course that’s relatively easily figured out for sure by hearing some cars with each installed, which is on my to do list. I’m just narrowing down the other factors first to make sure I’m seeking to hear models that pass the power/fit/reliability, etc considerations first.

Have you considered sound? Have you listened to the units before you decided, or will that be a possible surprise for you?

Well, I listened to a bunch of videos. I am going to drive by the shop that will be doing my install to listen to the owners Trans Am with an F1-A Procharger.
I really really wanted to use a roots style......but they just don't make the power I want...not even close. And they do get hot fast, the intercoolers just cannot keep up after multiple runs. There's zero heat problems with a Centri SC'er.

The Harrop 2650 will fit my car, but without nitrous its only going to make about 1,000 RWHP. Around my area.....that leaves me getting whipped by many many cars. With the F1X I'm not sure which car will beat me after its installed...if I can hook....lol

Since it will be my fun car only...and no longer my daily driver.....I do not care about the Procharger squeal......

I have to switch my entire rotating assembly into a new LSX iron block so my Brodix heads with bolt up with 6 bolts per cyl instead of 4.....otherwise the F1X will be limited to about 950-1,000 RWHP.

My 4L80E just got "STUFFED" into my car, I'll take it for road tuning on Friday. Then start the LSX interal parts swap soon.....get that engine in and install the F1X package.

06-19-2019, 06:05 AM	#72
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Any updates? __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

06-19-2019, 11:13 PM	#73
2NASSTY Drives: 2014 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tarpon Springs, Fl Posts: 772	Looks like this is already happening. https://www.instagram.com/p/By31UCMH...=183xuxph9s5wf __________________ 15' Ashen Gray Metallic Z/28 14' Crystal Red Tintcoat ZL1 6M, 9.62 at 150.75 MPH 12' Opulent Blue Metallic CTS-V Sedan, 10.690 at 129.60 MPH - SOLD 06' LeMans Blue Metallic Z06, 11.726 at 127.80 MPH Motor - SOLD. 96' Impala SS LTx, 11.397 at 118.10 MPH Motor, 1st stage 10.526 at 127.46 MPH

06-20-2019, 08:45 AM	#75
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Got some pics bud? What modifications did you have to do to make it all fit? I know the hood won’t fit. Will you all be making a plastic or metal intake? It does sound mean AF. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

06-20-2019, 01:55 PM	#77
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	I know the specs BUT an install tells exactly. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

06-11-2019, 11:46 AM	#71
Vanishing Point Drives: 2011 Camaro SS, LSX, 4L80E Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: DFW Posts: 65	Thanks Brother. Wishing you all success, big power and minimal issues. When it comes to these things the waiting is hard, but you just want it done right and so nothing else to do but wait patiently. A racing crew could probably have it done right in a couple hours. It can be done both quickly and right, but if you have to pick one you hold your tongue, flip calendar pages and be patient. My experience anyway. I used to do this type of work in the winter when I lived in Michigan. Now that I live in DFW (and likely you in Florida) summer is the worst time of year to be out, thus probably the best time of the year to get project work done, so that makes waiting in June-September better than waiting any other months. Silver linings. I can drop top all winter.

06-20-2019, 06:26 AM	#74
mrvenicess Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 auto Join Date: May 2010 Location: Venice Fl Posts: 1,443 View My Garage	We are slowly getting everything together. Have to fab up an intake.

06-20-2019, 01:04 PM	#76
rpol78 Drives: 69 Camaro Pace Car Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 113	Here's the specs on it http://www.magnusonsuperchargers.com...-26-153-bl.htm

06-24-2019, 11:44 PM	#80
390ciSCed Drives: 1998 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 26	I decided to go Procharger F1X. Should make an easy 1,400 RWHP and the same basic labor to install it all....and total price as the 2650. A guy in New Zealand just built an all out 427ci with the Harrop 2650....could only get 1,130 RWHP and that was spinning it well past the TVS recommendation. A2W intercooler, big cam, Mast heads, I think a 105mm TB and ported SC'er intake, 2" headers and the 2" Harrop spacer. Still kickass RWHP, but just not enough these days.