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hammdo · 05-19-2019, 04:42 PM

@ Fest I Hope ;o)

-Don

ttshovel · 05-19-2019, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hammdo

@ Fest I Hope ;o)

-Don

Hopefully I get everything back together by then.

Just picked up a set of 821 heads to replace these 823s. Going to get a set of stouter valve springs for them as well. Hoping to sell this mechanical pump to fund the electric one then itll be ready to go back to the dyno

ttshovel · 05-21-2019, 12:06 PM

Decided the cheapest route is the best route for me. Picked up this triple y block.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TRS-Fue...04e%7Ciid%3A10

And this dual pump mount

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Billet-Alum...b04e%7Ciid%3A1

Going to throw 2 aem 380lph pumps on it and keep the primer walbro 255 as well. Going to add a 3rd bulkhead in the sump of the cell so each pump has their own feed.

The 821 heads will be here tomorrow and this weekend look to tear the heads off and get them swapped out. Hoping to make it back to the dyno beginning of next month, this should allow me to carry power past 7500

shibbs · 05-22-2019, 04:41 PM

I'm definitely no expert, but it seems like you've got too much spring back there, and not enough shock. Looks SUPER good, but it seems to need a bit more height in the rear along with the lowered spring rate. That should load the rear tires up nicely.

ttshovel · 05-22-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shibbs

I'm definitely no expert, but it seems like you've got too much spring back there, and not enough shock. Looks SUPER good, but it seems to need a bit more height in the rear along with the lowered spring rate. That should load the rear tires up nicely.

Thanks for the input

I raised ride height an inch to put the coilovers in the center of their travel. Moved instant center above antisquat line which should transfer more weight faster and move the suspension down/body up hitting tires harder. I tightened compression up a few clicks and loosened rebound which should help it. Gonna start with more air in the tires and go from there next outing. Dont want to make any more changes than that for now. If it doesn't help I'll scale it again and check for spring rate again. Not wanting to make a ton of changes at once and dont know what helped/hurt it

Heads showed up today. Ordered a fuel filter for each of the new pumps to go in pre pump.

ttshovel · 05-29-2019, 08:27 PM

Got the new springs on went with the btr .685 springs shimmed .030

Picked up the ict billet 551668-3 alternator bracket along with a new 4 pin alternator. Also picked up Holley 197-400 pigtail for it. Already has the resistor built in to self excite it.

Aem pumps showed up today. Everything else will be here this week and I'll have it all back together and ready for the dyno after next week.

hammdo · 05-29-2019, 11:11 PM

Can't wait!

-Don

ttshovel · 05-29-2019, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hammdo

Can't wait!

-Don

I'm with ya man. After seeing the tuners timing table I'm going to tell him to throw some timing at it....

23psi he has 10.5* in it. That's definitely not helping the power fall off up top. I mean I'm no tuner but I would think 14-16* sounds more like it from everyone else I'm seeing dyno turbo e85 cars

hammdo · 05-29-2019, 11:41 PM

Mine is 20.5° with e85/meth, 17° on e85 and that is still conservative ...

-Don

fif_gen_powa · 05-30-2019, 07:57 AM

My timing around peak tq is 10* and ramps up timing is top to 13* sbe LS3 19psi made 905whp through manual trans e85/meth. Too much timing is usually what kills these motors w/boost imo better to be too little than too much

ttshovel · 05-30-2019, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

My timing around peak tq is 10* and ramps up timing is top to 13* sbe LS3 19psi made 905whp through manual trans e85/meth. Too much timing is usually what kills these motors w/boost imo better to be too little than too much

This is very true especially being sbe. I know it's common practice to ramp timing back in after peak tq which I think would help this car a bunch.

Scheduled to go back for the retune June 26th. Far enough out to get everything squared away

Dual pumps are mounted. Will work on relays/wiring next.
Heads are on. Need to torque them and I'll be back in business

fif_gen_powa · 05-30-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ttshovel

This is very true especially being sbe. I know it's common practice to ramp timing back in after peak tq which I think would help this car a bunch.

Scheduled to go back for the retune June 26th. Far enough out to get everything squared away

Dual pumps are mounted. Will work on relays/wiring next.
Heads are on. Need to torque them and I'll be back in business

My 2 cents, keep it safe, race it, enjoy it for this season and know down the road you can squeeze some more out of it if you need to. Super awesome build man, lots of hours of hard work in it and now its time to enjoy it!

ttshovel · 05-30-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

My 2 cents, keep it safe, race it, enjoy it for this season and know down the road you can squeeze some more out of it if you need to. Super awesome build man, lots of hours of hard work in it and now its time to enjoy it!

Thanks man! Definitely been hearing a lot of this lately lol. Sounding more and more like the route I'll go.

EDIT:
Car is all back together 100%. New alternator is charging over 14 volts at idle, car starts right up after a second of cranking with the new fuel pumps. Ready for the dyno the 26th now. Hopefully no hiccups

ttshovel · 06-26-2019, 08:55 PM

Made it back from the dyno. Timing is back into the car now but blowing through the converter badly after 17psi.

At 17 psi it made 800whp. That pull was 89 degree ambient/37% humidity to boot. So lot of power gained from timing.

Ended with 25psi and 21.5 degrees of timing. Made 826whp. Going to pick up some ignite red to help it live here per tuners recommendation. Based on fuel consumption. It would be right around 1400 crank hp

We had issues such as, tps sensor failing, co2 pressure being too high(needed to make a shift on this m&m), so I'll be adding the second co2 bottle regulated down to 80psi for boost control alone, and blowing through the converter lastly

05-19-2019, 04:42 PM	#309
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,693 View My Garage	@ Fest I Hope ;o) -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

05-21-2019, 12:06 PM	#311
ttshovel Drives: 12 camaro ss, 72 chevelle, 91camaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: findlay,oh Posts: 2,069	Decided the cheapest route is the best route for me. Picked up this triple y block. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TRS-Fue...04e%7Ciid%3A10 And this dual pump mount https://www.ebay.com/itm/Billet-Alum...b04e%7Ciid%3A1 Going to throw 2 aem 380lph pumps on it and keep the primer walbro 255 as well. Going to add a 3rd bulkhead in the sump of the cell so each pump has their own feed. The 821 heads will be here tomorrow and this weekend look to tear the heads off and get them swapped out. Hoping to make it back to the dyno beginning of next month, this should allow me to carry power past 7500 __________________ 12 camaro ss 427lsx, th400, f310 heads, crower shaft mounts, gpi specd solid roller, shearerfab 2k hp a/w, twin bullseye 88mm turbos, hughes pro ssx bolt together converter, holley dominator, 8.50 cert, backhalf, Ford 9", 33x17x16 tires, c16 fuel

05-29-2019, 08:27 PM	#314
ttshovel Drives: 12 camaro ss, 72 chevelle, 91camaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: findlay,oh Posts: 2,069	Got the new springs on went with the btr .685 springs shimmed .030 Picked up the ict billet 551668-3 alternator bracket along with a new 4 pin alternator. Also picked up Holley 197-400 pigtail for it. Already has the resistor built in to self excite it. Aem pumps showed up today. Everything else will be here this week and I'll have it all back together and ready for the dyno after next week. __________________ 12 camaro ss 427lsx, th400, f310 heads, crower shaft mounts, gpi specd solid roller, shearerfab 2k hp a/w, twin bullseye 88mm turbos, hughes pro ssx bolt together converter, holley dominator, 8.50 cert, backhalf, Ford 9", 33x17x16 tires, c16 fuel

05-29-2019, 11:11 PM	#315
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,693 View My Garage	Can't wait! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

05-29-2019, 11:41 PM	#317
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,693 View My Garage	Mine is 20.5° with e85/meth, 17° on e85 and that is still conservative ... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

05-30-2019, 07:57 AM	#318
fif_gen_powa Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,525	My timing around peak tq is 10* and ramps up timing is top to 13* sbe LS3 19psi made 905whp through manual trans e85/meth. Too much timing is usually what kills these motors w/boost imo better to be too little than too much __________________ 388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400 8.3@164 https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/

06-26-2019, 08:55 PM	#322
ttshovel Drives: 12 camaro ss, 72 chevelle, 91camaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: findlay,oh Posts: 2,069	Made it back from the dyno. Timing is back into the car now but blowing through the converter badly after 17psi. At 17 psi it made 800whp. That pull was 89 degree ambient/37% humidity to boot. So lot of power gained from timing. Ended with 25psi and 21.5 degrees of timing. Made 826whp. Going to pick up some ignite red to help it live here per tuners recommendation. Based on fuel consumption. It would be right around 1400 crank hp We had issues such as, tps sensor failing, co2 pressure being too high(needed to make a shift on this m&m), so I'll be adding the second co2 bottle regulated down to 80psi for boost control alone, and blowing through the converter lastly __________________ 12 camaro ss 427lsx, th400, f310 heads, crower shaft mounts, gpi specd solid roller, shearerfab 2k hp a/w, twin bullseye 88mm turbos, hughes pro ssx bolt together converter, holley dominator, 8.50 cert, backhalf, Ford 9", 33x17x16 tires, c16 fuel Last edited by ttshovel; 06-27-2019 at 07:38 AM.