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Shadowsong · 10-02-2007, 04:53 PM

I seem to remember hearing or reading something a while back that paxton is exclusively a shelby thing now... I might be making that up though.

But if that's true, then I highly doubt we'd see a paxton system for our maros

*CamaroSpike23* · 10-04-2007, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowsong

I seem to remember hearing or reading something a while back that paxton is exclusively a shelby thing now... I might be making that up though.

But if that's true, then I highly doubt we'd see a paxton system for our maros

to check for the possible "factory" systems. look at what they are putting on the 08 Vette. its getting a bad@$$ LS3 w/possible forced induction. where as the camaro will be getting a detuned version but the block is the same so whatever they make for the vette, look for it on the Camaro

69copo · 10-05-2007, 09:19 AM

My local speedshop GMR Speed has had great results with the Magna Charger. It is a closed system meaning it is internaly lubed and cooled. On there 2007 'Vette they showed a 250HP boost and kept the OEM MPG. I can't wait to get one on the 08 Camaro.

69copo · 10-05-2007, 09:27 AM

I have a friend that works with Magna Charger and they have been developing systems for the LS2 and my speed shop GMR Speed has on there 07 Vette and increased the HP by 250. Also, the cam in the LS2 is built by Comp and is desinged to handle a supercharger. I think the GM boys are expecting us to pick up where they left off. The suppliers are there and the door is open......

RichieFlorida · 10-05-2007, 09:54 AM

If Paxton would see a demand then they would manufacture a set up for the Camaro. I am going to call a friend I have over at Paxton at lunch time and plants some seeds & see what they are thinking. Repeated requests is what made Paxton make a system for the Viper. Now 90% of the Vipers that are S/C use Paxtons. More affordable and user friendly then a TT system.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-05-2007, 12:21 PM

Good Idea Richie. I've heard virtually no bad things about Paxtons - My only grief is that they never took to the F-bodys...If they made a setup for the new Camaro, I'd definitely go Paxton!

But question, what make Paxtons Unique? I mean, some companys are belt driven (inside) some are gear, some are self-contained....where do the Novichargers fall?

LSxcellent · 10-05-2007, 01:01 PM

Eh, with the advent of twin-scroll turbo's all of this conversation is moot. They produce far more power with no lag, and will last just as long.

If I were going to build something, I'd start with a LS3 Block, drop in some forged pistons, toss a couple twin scroll turbo's in there with a large intercooler, and chill with my 1200hp.

Now that I am done day dreaming, I have to get back to work.

~CB

Oh, and I double clutch like I should

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-05-2007, 01:18 PM

twin-scroll?

what are those?

Shadowsong · 10-05-2007, 03:52 PM

He might mean twin screw.

RichieFlorida · 10-05-2007, 04:45 PM

Very expensive to build a twin turbo with 1200rwhp. You have to have AEM and it must be set up correctly. Then you need a dyno to tune it. Then you need to set the boost correctly for each gear and map it and save it on your laptop. You need to do this then on 100 octane if you intend to change boost requirements for a track day or just feel like going wild. Again another map. Twin turbos will produce more power, they are not parasitic like an S/C but they are 3 times the money to build correctly. You can not take short cuts when producing this kind of power or else.....

*CamaroSpike23* · 10-05-2007, 05:52 PM

like ive said before...

fast
cheap
reliable

pick two.

Power Junkie · 10-05-2007, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieFlorida

Very expensive to build a twin turbo with 1200rwhp. You have to have AEM and it must be set up correctly. Then you need a dyno to tune it. Then you need to set the boost correctly for each gear and map it and save it on your laptop. You need to do this then on 100 octane if you intend to change boost requirements for a track day or just feel like going wild. Again another map. Twin turbos will produce more power, they are not parasitic like an S/C but they are 3 times the money to build correctly. You can not take short cuts when producing this kind of power or else.....

Not to mention the cooling issues with that sort of boost... and if your forging the engine you might as well chuck in a balanced crank, better con rods, lightened and balanced flywheel, better flowing exhaust yadda, yadda... plus uprating the suspension, tyres, brakes... the list goes on.... obviously the main thing you need for this kind of conversion is... deep pockets

RichieFlorida · 10-05-2007, 07:09 PM

How true it is Power Junkie.

Right now I have 920rwhp and this red car has 1200 and is a TT. No overheating problems and we are in Florida. The split second or AEM both help address and fix this problem. The only thing is with the AEM you can not run dual injectors. I run dual injectors where the red car has singles. This car will run the Texas mile tomorrow. I was unable to go this year. Texas Boys are pissed at me and will be in Florida for the Dec Viper National so I owe a few dinners now.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-05-2007, 07:25 PM

Don't mean to steal the thread - But for an at-home setup, no monster power numbers...how are the STS turbo twin/single(doesn't matter to me) setups?

Remotely mounted? I wanted some expert opinions...

10-05-2007, 12:21 PM	#20
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Good Idea Richie. I've heard virtually no bad things about Paxtons - My only grief is that they never took to the F-bodys...If they made a setup for the new Camaro, I'd definitely go Paxton! But question, what make Paxtons Unique? I mean, some companys are belt driven (inside) some are gear, some are self-contained....where do the Novichargers fall? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-05-2007, 01:01 PM	#21
LSxcellent Drives: MINI Cooper S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 284	Eh, with the advent of twin-scroll turbo's all of this conversation is moot. They produce far more power with no lag, and will last just as long. If I were going to build something, I'd start with a LS3 Block, drop in some forged pistons, toss a couple twin scroll turbo's in there with a large intercooler, and chill with my 1200hp. Now that I am done day dreaming, I have to get back to work. ~CB Oh, and I double clutch like I should __________________ "When you turn your car on, does it return the favor?"

10-05-2007, 01:18 PM	#22
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	twin-scroll? what are those? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-05-2007, 07:25 PM	#28
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Don't mean to steal the thread - But for an at-home setup, no monster power numbers...how are the STS turbo twin/single(doesn't matter to me) setups? Remotely mounted? I wanted some expert opinions... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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10-02-2007, 04:53 PM	#15
Shadowsong Drives: 2014 Mustang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 642	I seem to remember hearing or reading something a while back that paxton is exclusively a shelby thing now... I might be making that up though. But if that's true, then I highly doubt we'd see a paxton system for our maros

10-05-2007, 09:19 AM	#17
69copo Sorry officer Drives: CTS/V 2SS/RS Collector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cleveland OH Posts: 115 View My Garage	My local speedshop GMR Speed has had great results with the Magna Charger. It is a closed system meaning it is internaly lubed and cooled. On there 2007 'Vette they showed a 250HP boost and kept the OEM MPG. I can't wait to get one on the 08 Camaro.

10-05-2007, 09:27 AM	#18
69copo Sorry officer Drives: CTS/V 2SS/RS Collector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cleveland OH Posts: 115 View My Garage	I have a friend that works with Magna Charger and they have been developing systems for the LS2 and my speed shop GMR Speed has on there 07 Vette and increased the HP by 250. Also, the cam in the LS2 is built by Comp and is desinged to handle a supercharger. I think the GM boys are expecting us to pick up where they left off. The suppliers are there and the door is open......

10-05-2007, 09:54 AM	#19
RichieFlorida Drives: 69 SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, Fl. Posts: 188	If Paxton would see a demand then they would manufacture a set up for the Camaro. I am going to call a friend I have over at Paxton at lunch time and plants some seeds & see what they are thinking. Repeated requests is what made Paxton make a system for the Viper. Now 90% of the Vipers that are S/C use Paxtons. More affordable and user friendly then a TT system.

10-05-2007, 03:52 PM	#23
Shadowsong Drives: 2014 Mustang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 642	He might mean twin screw.

10-05-2007, 04:45 PM	#24
RichieFlorida Drives: 69 SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, Fl. Posts: 188	Very expensive to build a twin turbo with 1200rwhp. You have to have AEM and it must be set up correctly. Then you need a dyno to tune it. Then you need to set the boost correctly for each gear and map it and save it on your laptop. You need to do this then on 100 octane if you intend to change boost requirements for a track day or just feel like going wild. Again another map. Twin turbos will produce more power, they are not parasitic like an S/C but they are 3 times the money to build correctly. You can not take short cuts when producing this kind of power or else.....

10-05-2007, 07:09 PM	#27
RichieFlorida Drives: 69 SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, Fl. Posts: 188	How true it is Power Junkie. Right now I have 920rwhp and this red car has 1200 and is a TT. No overheating problems and we are in Florida. The split second or AEM both help address and fix this problem. The only thing is with the AEM you can not run dual injectors. I run dual injectors where the red car has singles. This car will run the Texas mile tomorrow. I was unable to go this year. Texas Boys are pissed at me and will be in Florida for the Dec Viper National so I owe a few dinners now.