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I'm enjoying the McKee's 37 coating I put on last summer on the Durango. So far, still has great beading and is still doing it's job, despite the car being covered in salt for months and months before a wash. The wheel coating is holding up as well, and the glass coating I put on only lasted about 4 months.
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05-31-2017, 06:02 PM | #31 | |
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Cleaner wax was developed around 1950. This is 2017. There are totally different things for paint protection that outlast, out-protect, and are easier to use. The reason why cleaner wax is sold at Wal-Mart and the auto chains is for the general public who want something cheap that gives short term results. I'd rather buy quality to protect my paint better, longer, and make washing/drying easier. I had the Griots machine at one point. It is a good machine, but the Rupes 21 gets the job done faster, better, and with less vibration reducing fatigue. If you want to use a wax product for protection, throw away the cleaner wax and use Collinite 845.
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05-31-2017, 06:19 PM | #32 | |
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If I had a garage, I'd definitely have one on my car.
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05-31-2017, 07:01 PM | #33 | |
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I'm trying to find a dealer for Ceramic pro for the wife's volt. Maybe down the line I'll track someone down to buy some. I think you can pull it off without a garage man. One spot at a time and it dries within probably 30 seconds. Just needs cure time. I see your point, wind, dust, dirt blowing on the car, could prove to be challenging. Honestly, a part of me wishes I had more time to work on cars. I've got a PC, Flex 3401 and Rupes BF 15 waiting for some action, lol.
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05-31-2017, 07:30 PM | #34 | |
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The dew settles on my car every night, so I'd have a mess in the morning. But I'm very happy with Essence, topped with Reload, and a once every 3 month wash with Hydrofoam. Bird bombs don't get to the clear coat, bug splatter doesn't either, and the paint is very hydrophobic, which means less dirt and easier drying.
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05-31-2017, 07:49 PM | #35 | |
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Glad essence and reload do the job! Hopefully you get yourself a garage sometime in the near future man!
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I'm with you. I get annoyed at guys here who think just because you purchase a product at Walmart it's no good. My Summit White SS is now 8 years old and the finish is still like new. I detail a panel or two a week by hand using nothing but MeGuires Cleaner Wax followed by a coat of New Car Wax. Both great products.
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06-02-2017, 11:36 AM | #39 |
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We never said anything about walmart not having good/bad products.
I posted the link specifically because AG has a lot more experience than all of us combined with their detailer's and they explain the point of a cleaner wax. I was all about autozone, walmart and target detailing supplies for years. Then, I ventured out and tried these "oh so expensive items" as you guys have said and couldn't be happier. There is a right tool, and while these are not bad products, there are BETTER products out there if you're willing to pay for them. Just a few quotes from the webpage: A cleaner/wax is best used on a neglected finish because a neglected finish needs to be cleaned. Cleaner/Waxes, or All-In-One products are designed for a large market which includes do-it-yourselfers and detailers that want to restore a bright, shiny finish to the paint but want to do it in one-step. Their goal is to get a great looking finish without having to invest the time and effort associated with a multiple-step approach which usually includes, Dedicated compounding or paint cleaning step Dedicated polishing or glazing step Dedicated sealing step using a finishing wax or finishing paint sealant A cleaner/wax doesn't need to be used, and in most cases shouldn't be used, on a car in which the paint is in excellent condition, for example a brand new car or an older car in which the paint has been properly cleaned and polished. For finishes on both of these types of cars the paint would be better served using a finishing wax or finishing sealant.
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I've used cleaner wax off and on since 1983.
It doesn't provide much protection. It will make a car with defects look better because it fills imperfections. In a couple months at best, it's gone. Unless your car is a weekend only garage queen, or a show car, and it's driven more than it's detailed, a paint sealant provides better protection. Carpro Reload is the best sealant I've used, because of how resistant it is to acids. If you drive your car, it's a given you'll get bird bombs on it, and bug splatter. Both of these are highly acidic, and will go though cleaner wax and into your clear coat in no time. I've had bird bombs and bugs on my car which had to sit in the hot summer sun for 4 hours before I could remove them. Reload hasn't allowed any etching in my paint at all. Essence and Reload applied 10-16-16. Two pics from a few days ago during a rainstorm lull. First is the beading, second is after a quick pooling rinse, you can see over 90% of the water is gone. No cleaner wax will ever provide this type of protection, length of durability, and a hydrophobic surface. Money well spent for all the hours I spent initially correcting my paint.
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06-03-2017, 09:38 AM | #41 |
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^^^ I realize the cleaner wax does little to protect the finish. That's why I follow up with
the New Car Wax paste, also from Wax Mart. I've been using the cleaner wax on my 8 year old Summit White SS since I got it. I also use it by hand on all my antique cars over the years. This black Olds 88 always looks like a million bucks when I would detail it for the car shows. Thats dust on the finish, not chips. |
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That black olds isn't daily driven, isn't parked outside 24/7, and spends more time in the garage then it does on the road. It's supposed to look good.
For those of us who actually drive our cars more then we detail them, good protection is a necessity to protect the finish. So do I want a product that provides very little protection, or one that provides excellent protection along with long durability? Only one logical answer.
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