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2K141LE · 07-07-2015, 02:05 PM

Just got my 1LE back from Lashway Motorsports and I couldn't be happier.
They installed the TSP 235/239 - 112 LSA cam and dyno-tuned it to 486 hp/ 427 tq. I already had on all of the other supporting bolt-on mods (TSP 1-7/8 headers, VMax TB, CAI, Air Scoop and NPP) but the car was un-tuned with those for a couple of months.

Car drives awesome - pulls hard all the way to 6.5K and slow speed surge is almost a non-factor thanks to Josh's tune. The wicked rough idle is just money!

Thanks again to Erik and Josh @ LM for the great work and quick turnaround. You guys are true professionals!

Dyno posted...

1BadAssSS · 07-07-2015, 02:14 PM

Those are great numbers!

goldcoastmat · 07-07-2015, 03:29 PM

Great products, great tuner, great numbers.

2K141LE · 07-07-2015, 08:15 PM

Thanks guys; first cammed V8 for me so just loving it.

Bodywerks · 07-08-2015, 03:53 AM

Hmmm. I wonder what it is about this cam that absolutely kills torque? I mean, my 1LE made 423rwtq on a MUSTANG dyno with just bolt ons and a tune. Several thousand dollars later and you only gained 3lb/ft???
My build plan, up to now, has had this specific cam in mind, but with PRC 255 heads and 12:1 compression. The thought of surpassing 500 rwhp is enticing, but not at the expense of torque. I want to make at least 450lb/ft, and I'd sacrifice a little hp to get it(I'd still want to be teasing the 500rwhp mark, though

).
Hopefully, it will just be a matter of a different LSA. Otherwise, I'll look into a custom grind.

Sps · 07-08-2015, 09:42 PM

Great numbers. Glad it turned out well for you. Erik and Josh @ LM do great work, wouldn't let anyone else touch my car

Jpnyhc1le · 07-09-2015, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

Hmmm. I wonder what it is about this cam that absolutely kills torque? I mean, my 1LE made 423rwtq on a MUSTANG dyno with just bolt ons and a tune. Several thousand dollars later and you only gained 3lb/ft???
My build plan, up to now, has had this specific cam in mind, but with PRC 255 heads and 12:1 compression. The thought of surpassing 500 rwhp is enticing, but not at the expense of torque. I want to make at least 450lb/ft, and I'd sacrifice a little hp to get it(I'd still want to be teasing the 500rwhp mark, though

).
Hopefully, it will just be a matter of a different LSA. Otherwise, I'll look into a custom grind.

I went with the 229/236 and tsp 260 heads made 532/485 on one dyno( not realistic) and 502/445 on a very reputable dyno

Bodywerks · 07-10-2015, 02:32 AM

Thanks for that info. Any compression bump milled into the heads? I'm either going 255 or 260 heads and 11.5:1 0r 12:1 compression. On the fence with the cam. Might have to go custom.

Jpnyhc1le · 07-10-2015, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

Thanks for that info. Any compression bump milled into the heads? I'm either going 255 or 260 heads and 11.5:1 0r 12:1 compression. On the fence with the cam. Might have to go custom.

Only slight milling and slight compression bump. I have plans for a supercharger in the future that's why I went with the 260 and kept the compression pretty much stock. If your going to stay na go with the 255. I love this cam I had a crazy cam in my trans am and I lost all my low to mid power and made it all up top. This cam has a really nice curve with no torque loss

Bodywerks · 07-10-2015, 07:46 AM

What you posted is what I'm hoping to achieve, maybe slightly better. I'd like to go 11.5 to 12:1 compression, but that will require probably 63cc chambers at least. I think I could still run the TSP 235/239, but just for giggles I put in my order sheet to Pat G with all my specs. Told him I wanted hard chop at idle, hard pull from 3k to the red line without the power dip that I am seeing in this TSP cam, and with better tq gains. I started my "what do you want out of this cam" with "I want a TSP 235/239 killer!"
Don't get me wrong. I love this cam. But if I can taylor my own cam to perform just a little better, and on PatG cam motion lobes, then I'm all over it.

Jpnyhc1le · 07-10-2015, 08:56 AM

Sounds like a good plan you can def achieve over 500 whp and over 450 wtq going that route. I have stock cat back I wonder if I would make over 450 wtq if I went aftermarket but I heard a lot of mixed reviews.

2K141LE · 07-10-2015, 02:13 PM

I was on the fence between the 229/236 and the 235/239 because I didn't want to loose that mid-range power/tq. But after seeing/hearing/feeling it in Simon's 1LE, I was sold.

I would love to have my tq number up some more for sure but there are compromises with everything in this life. That said I have 0 complaints. Once that crank speed starts spinning up, it bails hard all the way to 6.5K and the cam shake/rumble at idle with the larger profile is just flat out killer.

I hope you find the 235/239 killer with matching hp/tq numbers in that custom grind. Then I hope you share it!

@Simon - thanks man!

Jpnyhc1le · 07-10-2015, 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=2K141LE;8526352]I was on the fence between the 229/236 and the 235/239 because I didn't want to loose that mid-range power/tq. But after seeing/hearing/feeling it in Simon's 1LE, I was sold.

I would love to have my tq number up some more for sure but there are compromises with everything in this life. That said I have 0 complaints. Once that crank speed starts spinning up, it bails hard all the way to 6.5K and the cam shake/rumble at idle with the larger profile is just flat out killer.

I hope you find the 235/239 killer with matching hp/tq numbers in that custom grind. Then I hope you share it!

what are your numbers?

Bodywerks · 07-14-2015, 11:23 AM

Just got specs back and order placed:
232/240 .654/.626 110+2
Lots of intake lift in a short duration, should improve midrange a bit.

07-07-2015, 02:05 PM	#1
2K141LE Drives: 2014 1LE - AGM Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 13	Lashway TSP 235/239 Cam Install Just got my 1LE back from Lashway Motorsports and I couldn't be happier. They installed the TSP 235/239 - 112 LSA cam and dyno-tuned it to 486 hp/ 427 tq. I already had on all of the other supporting bolt-on mods (TSP 1-7/8 headers, VMax TB, CAI, Air Scoop and NPP) but the car was un-tuned with those for a couple of months. Car drives awesome - pulls hard all the way to 6.5K and slow speed surge is almost a non-factor thanks to Josh's tune. The wicked rough idle is just money! Thanks again to Erik and Josh @ LM for the great work and quick turnaround. You guys are true professionals! Dyno posted... Attached Images Last edited by 2K141LE; 07-07-2015 at 02:06 PM. Reason: adding dyno image

07-07-2015, 03:29 PM	#3
goldcoastmat Drives: 2013 2SS/RS convertable Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 153 View My Garage	Great products, great tuner, great numbers. __________________ 2013 2SS/RS Vert Mods list to long to fit in sig now lol Check build thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=377507

07-08-2015, 03:53 AM	#5
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Hmmm. I wonder what it is about this cam that absolutely kills torque? I mean, my 1LE made 423rwtq on a MUSTANG dyno with just bolt ons and a tune. Several thousand dollars later and you only gained 3lb/ft??? My build plan, up to now, has had this specific cam in mind, but with PRC 255 heads and 12:1 compression. The thought of surpassing 500 rwhp is enticing, but not at the expense of torque. I want to make at least 450lb/ft, and I'd sacrifice a little hp to get it(I'd still want to be teasing the 500rwhp mark, though ). Hopefully, it will just be a matter of a different LSA. Otherwise, I'll look into a custom grind. __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports. Last edited by Bodywerks; 07-08-2015 at 04:12 AM.

07-08-2015, 09:42 PM	#6
Sps Drives: 2013 Camaro SS2/RS 1LE Rally Yellow Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Miami Posts: 313	Great numbers. Glad it turned out well for you. Erik and Josh @ LM do great work, wouldn't let anyone else touch my car __________________ 2013 Rally Yellow SS 1LE. 527 RWHP 452 RWTQ Custom tuned by Lashway Motorsports PRC 255 heads, Fast 102 intake manifold, Nicky Williams TB, 25% Under Pulley Texas Speed cam 235/239, SW Long Tube Headers Roto-Fab Cold Air Intake, NPP Exhaust, BMR 1:25 springs

07-10-2015, 02:32 AM	#8
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Thanks for that info. Any compression bump milled into the heads? I'm either going 255 or 260 heads and 11.5:1 0r 12:1 compression. On the fence with the cam. Might have to go custom. __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.

07-07-2015, 02:14 PM	#2
1BadAssSS Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Harvest, AL Posts: 262	Those are great numbers!

07-07-2015, 08:15 PM	#4
2K141LE Drives: 2014 1LE - AGM Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 13	Thanks guys; first cammed V8 for me so just loving it.

07-10-2015, 07:46 AM	#10
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	What you posted is what I'm hoping to achieve, maybe slightly better. I'd like to go 11.5 to 12:1 compression, but that will require probably 63cc chambers at least. I think I could still run the TSP 235/239, but just for giggles I put in my order sheet to Pat G with all my specs. Told him I wanted hard chop at idle, hard pull from 3k to the red line without the power dip that I am seeing in this TSP cam, and with better tq gains. I started my "what do you want out of this cam" with "I want a TSP 235/239 killer!" Don't get me wrong. I love this cam. But if I can taylor my own cam to perform just a little better, and on PatG cam motion lobes, then I'm all over it. __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports. Last edited by Bodywerks; 07-10-2015 at 08:06 AM.

07-10-2015, 08:56 AM	#11
Jpnyhc1le Drives: 2013 camaro 1ss 1le Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Long Island,ny Posts: 224	Sounds like a good plan you can def achieve over 500 whp and over 450 wtq going that route. I have stock cat back I wonder if I would make over 450 wtq if I went aftermarket but I heard a lot of mixed reviews.

07-10-2015, 02:13 PM	#12
2K141LE Drives: 2014 1LE - AGM Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 13	I was on the fence between the 229/236 and the 235/239 because I didn't want to loose that mid-range power/tq. But after seeing/hearing/feeling it in Simon's 1LE, I was sold. I would love to have my tq number up some more for sure but there are compromises with everything in this life. That said I have 0 complaints. Once that crank speed starts spinning up, it bails hard all the way to 6.5K and the cam shake/rumble at idle with the larger profile is just flat out killer. I hope you find the 235/239 killer with matching hp/tq numbers in that custom grind. Then I hope you share it! @Simon - thanks man! __________________ 2014 1LE AGM - VMax TB - CAI - JRE Air Scoop - TSP 1-7/8 Headers - TSP 235/239 112 LSA - NPP - Apex 1.25 springs - JBA cables - tuned by Lashway Motorsports

07-10-2015, 04:11 PM	#13
Jpnyhc1le Drives: 2013 camaro 1ss 1le Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Long Island,ny Posts: 224	[QUOTE=2K141LE;8526352]I was on the fence between the 229/236 and the 235/239 because I didn't want to loose that mid-range power/tq. But after seeing/hearing/feeling it in Simon's 1LE, I was sold. I would love to have my tq number up some more for sure but there are compromises with everything in this life. That said I have 0 complaints. Once that crank speed starts spinning up, it bails hard all the way to 6.5K and the cam shake/rumble at idle with the larger profile is just flat out killer. I hope you find the 235/239 killer with matching hp/tq numbers in that custom grind. Then I hope you share it! what are your numbers?

07-14-2015, 11:23 AM	#14
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Just got specs back and order placed: 232/240 .654/.626 110+2 Lots of intake lift in a short duration, should improve midrange a bit. __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.