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Old 07-25-2022, 11:51 AM   #1
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2024 Camaro?

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Old 07-25-2022, 12:13 PM   #2
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Yuck 4 door??? I mean going all electric is bad enough but to make a Camaro a 4 door?? Mustang is starting to look a whole lot better now.
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Old 07-25-2022, 12:21 PM   #3
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Naaa, they won't build that... They know nobody would buy it. I personally think Camaro will just go away. The EV Blazer will take the place of both in GMs line-up.
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Old 07-25-2022, 12:31 PM   #4
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Naaa, they won't build that... They know nobody would buy it. I personally think Camaro will just go away. The EV Blazer will take the place of both in GMs line-up.
I would rather that happen than turn it into a 4 door.
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Old 07-25-2022, 12:54 PM   #5
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Charger sells 3 times the units than Challenger, Not many people want 2 doors anymore. This would sell easily.
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:02 PM   #6
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$20 says it has a 200 mile range too, and if you want the extended battery.... $30,000 more, so $70,000 for 100mile range increase just like the F150 Lightning
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:07 PM   #7
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Charger sells 3 times the units than Challenger, Not many people want 2 doors anymore. This would sell easily.
Yeah, but the Charger, especially the wide-body, looks pretty good. This thing in the picture looks horrendous.
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Charger sells 3 times the units than Challenger, Not many people want 2 doors anymore. This would sell easily.
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Yeah, but the Charger, especially the wide-body, looks pretty good. This thing in the picture looks horrendous.
^^^^ Ya, that... It won't sell easily... It's hideous...
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$20 says it has a 200 mile range too, and if you want the extended battery.... $30,000 more, so $70,000 for 100mile range increase just like the F150 Lightning
For sure, we also need to see if GM can even build these EVs without burning down your house. I own a Tesla that has been trouble free but they have been building them for a lot longer and at scale now.

The price is the killer for EVs right now. They will be battery supply restricted for years so prices will remain high.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:04 PM   #10
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Truthfully,

Wondering when the auto manfacturer's will get their heads out of their asses and make a self charging EV. They can cut cost on the battery system itself, since the system would be self charging, so boom suddenly EV's become affordable and you can drive them non stop without needing to charge.

Think about that for a moment.

I'm about 260 miles from Chicago. Lets say its a holiday and I want to visit family. So I own an F150 Lightning with a 200mile range. It already takes 4 hours to drive to Chicago, do I really have to stop at 190 miles and wait for 1 hour for the ****ing car to charge?

No thanks.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:05 PM   #11
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This is exactly why I went ahead & ordered one now even though it is far from being the ideal time for me to do it.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:52 PM   #13
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:57 PM   #14
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Truthfully,

Wondering when the auto manfacturer's will get their heads out of their asses and make a self charging EV. They can cut cost on the battery system itself, since the system would be self charging, so boom suddenly EV's become affordable and you can drive them non stop without needing to charge.

Think about that for a moment.

I'm about 260 miles from Chicago. Lets say its a holiday and I want to visit family. So I own an F150 Lightning with a 200mile range. It already takes 4 hours to drive to Chicago, do I really have to stop at 190 miles and wait for 1 hour for the ****ing car to charge?

No thanks.
Supposedly, they are planning for solar panel charging in the Tesla Cybertruck. The rear bed cover acts as a solar panel charger but it is only good for a slow trickle charge. EVs already leverage regen braking, which helps extend range in the stop and go city driving but not much help on the highway.

You need quite bit of power to charge these large batteries. Hybrid tends to make more sense for folks in the short term until the grid and battery charging rates improve. Remember, charging at home requires a 50-60amp circuit to charge at about 32 - 44 miles of range per hour. You need some free space in your service panel and have enough total service to handle the additional load. Charging at night at home is cheap and easy if you have a garage and power available. Condos, apartments, etc. will have many challenges. You will need to charge at public chargers, while less expensive than fuel are not free.

Also, the fast charging speeds you see quoted are for batteries at a low state of charge. The charging rate slows down as the battery charge level increases.

If you typically drive 150 miles or less per day around town and can charge at home a BEV will work fine for most people. If you drive a lot, want to save on fuel and don't want to be bothered with charging, get a Hybrid. If you want to have fun buy a tire shredding V8 muscle car.
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