ZL1 loss

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

What more proof do you need bro? The current GT500 will NOT beat a ZL1 nor will the 13'... im sorry but when Chevy called them out when they annouced their new GT500 then to back out? shows signs of inferior bro... point proven man... oh and im still waiten on the numbers at Nurburgring for the 13' GT500... yea they wont release those "High" numbers LOL

Where are your videos that prove what you say is true?

I love the ZL1 and would pick one all day long over a GT500 but the fact remains that the ZL1 is slower in a drag race. The baseline runs that LPE has done with their cars prove that.

How do you know the '13 GT500 isn't faster than a ZL1? Does your ZL1 have a flux capacitor that allows you to time travel so you can see a drag race that hasn't happened yet?

All of this is not a knock on the ZL1, it's just the truth. It doesn't mean that it's not a fantastic car. You guys need to stop getting so butt-hurt anytime someone posts something about a GT500 being faster.

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by Black GT

The current (11-12) GT500 has a better power/weight ratio than the ZL1.
I can see the GT500 beating the ZL1 from a roll with both drivers being equal.

I don't think half of the people posting in here even give a logical thought to power/weight ratio ,like its a magical 4,200+ lbs. car that creates some void to travel through time.I'm mean WTH it took LPE like 700+ WHP to run a high 10,its f^c(ing heavy get over it.

[MR 45TH]

This prob comes down more to driver skill(or lack there of) than the ZL1's performance.

[Flavorwrench]

Before I purchased my ZL1, if someone would have asked me if I would rather have 650HP or the Best suspension currently available and 580HP, I might have really considered the 650HP... assuming both options were Camaro's. Having spent the weekend driving my ZL1, I will say this, every time I get out of my car, I shake my head in amazement of the suspension. Every person that I have given a ride to so far has commented on the solid ride and suspension, it's unbelievable! With that said, for about $600.00 worth of parts, I will have my 650HP. Better yet, I will not be driving a Mustang.

[stikSS]

The design and engineering put into the ZL was to give the buyer an OVERALL perfromance based car... not just a strip or road course car... but both, so with that in mind, its not going to be a one sided blow out by one or the other. I honestly think Ford threw the Boss LS to the ZL so they can evaulate and make some changes to the 13 GT500... I mean c'mon, Its almost May and no more info has been posted about the Shelby since Nov when Chevy called em out in front of everyone...

[Camaro_Corvette]

It smells in here.

[Rangore]

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

This really isn't worthy of a 64 page debate. First, the current GT500 is no slouch. Put a marginal driver in a ZL1 and a good driver in a 2011/2012 GT500 and the GT500 will win.

There is video evidence on this site of a stock ZL1 running a 12:02 after just two passes. In the hands on a good driver the ZL1 is no slouch; although, we all have to admit this car was not really produced for the drag strip.

The 2013 GT500 better beat the ZL1 very soundly at the drag strip or there is going to be a whole lot of crying in the Ford camp. With the kind of power that car produces, I do not see how it won't beat the ZL1 in straight line acceleration. I think even we the Chevy faithful will have to admit stock for stock the 2013 GT500 will have the advantage at the quarter mile.

This particular story sounds like a guy that maybe didn't get all that he could out of the ZL1. Just my opinion.

[Overflow]

Hey OP, you regret posting this yet?

[Crowley]

It should be a close race for the 11/12 GT500 stock for stock

550hp/510tq 38xx lbs
vs
580hp/550tq 40xx lbs

If both can get some traction it should be very close in the 1/4 mile .. no suprise there. Where the GT500 will get outclassed is in the twisties where the road isn't even and has bumps .. the ZL1 suspension will soak it up and shine ..

Crowley

[Rangore]

Originally Posted by gm_joe

I don't understand all the BS going around. So the Ford beat the Chevy, so what. On any day of the week with different drivers The Chevy will win 1/2 the races and the ford the other 1/2. Put a professional driver in a Prius and a so-so driver in the Ford and the Prius may win.

In 1993 I had a Z-28 with the LT1 motor...fun car...pretty fast stock. Ate Mustangs all day long on the track...even many modified ones. I went to an autocross track one day to try it out. I was very inexperienced for autocross...and would say I still am. There was a guy with an S-10 on good tires, but otherwise stock...getting around that course faster than I could get my Z-28 around the track. He was just very experienced...I found out he was the club president that was putting on the autocross day. Driver experience easily handed me my a$$ that day.

[Rice Killer]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

sorry guys , was spur of the moment, there was only a crappy iphone vid that didn't show enough detail to prove what cars were racing :(

Better than nothing. Post it....

[Tigg]

Originally Posted by Gordo

GM is goona have to put the car on a serious diet for one,and it is so much to ask for forged internals.I hate to admit it but this is the 4th camaro I've owned and loved them all.But I will be in the market for a 13' GT 500 soon.

See Ya!!

[Silver_Shelby]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

I have a buddy who just picked up a Zl1 , him and another friend with a 2011 Shelby made runs today on a closed course
The ZL1 was absolutely raped, aprox 5 car length loss , different races, digs, rolls, the results were the same run after run, they even switched cars for a similar result, maybe 3 car length loss by Zl1 with drivers changed

Shelby is bone stock

Zl1 is M6, bone stock, aprox 2300 miles (was bought out of state but he claims he broke it in according to manual)

disappointing results :(

I believe you 9c1ny, 11 GT500 is no slouch, but maybe the shelby driver has more experience with his car than the ZL1 owner
Maybe Dust was a factor in the ZL1's lane? I'm sure with time and a experience the ZL1 will beat the old Condor.....
It makes me wonder if in fact a ringer was used in the shoot out with the Boss Mustang, My god those times were fantastic!
Hang in there guys, Have Faith there will be better times I'm sure

[htron50]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

It smells in here.

Move the thread to Camaro Vs ----- just a suggestion!

BESIDES that, from OP comments it sounds like a closed course street racing story to me. Just saying....
What do they consider a closed course. I'd like to know the location etc etc