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Maroon 6.2L SS · 10-07-2019, 06:20 PM

I have to leave just before the second light goes out. Guessing game!!! If I leave when the third light comes on my R.T is terrible.

acammer · 10-07-2019, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maroon 6.2L SS

I have to leave just before the second light goes out. Guessing game!!! If I leave when the third light comes on my R.T is terrible.

Depends on how deep you stage, your personal reaction time, and how well you 60'. Just keep gradually backing up your timing on the tree till you find a sweet spot.

I chase time slips, and usually just sit and wait for the other car to leave - I feel better when I can see where they are on the track, rather than having them behind me.

Maroon 6.2L SS · 10-08-2019, 06:30 PM

acammer, I hear ya. I wish I was a chaser!!! I dialed in at 12.85 (dialed up a tad) Sunday and raced a guy dialed at 11.50 (in sportsmans class, that was the max they could dial). I had him 7/8ths of the track. I pedaled at the last minute and stayed ahead of him a foot maybe 30yds away from the line but then he dropped on me right at the end. I broke out and he ran 11.507. It was pretty exciting!!!

Overflow · 10-08-2019, 06:51 PM

Once the 3rd yellow lights up.

Vegas Bound · 10-08-2019, 07:40 PM

As the 3rd light comes on, I am leaving. Shallow stage.

acammer · 10-09-2019, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maroon 6.2L SS

acammer, I hear ya. I wish I was a chaser!!! I dialed in at 12.85 (dialed up a tad) Sunday and raced a guy dialed at 11.50 (in sportsmans class, that was the max they could dial). I had him 7/8ths of the track. I pedaled at the last minute and stayed ahead of him a foot maybe 30yds away from the line but then he dropped on me right at the end. I broke out and he ran 11.507. It was pretty exciting!!!

My buddy Zane has done a bunch of bracket racing his stick 5th gen this season. I'll shoot him this link, he might have some good input for you on what he does with the tree.

Bracket is pretty cool, it makes for amazing finishes. I don't really car for the delay box stuff, although I get how it's just an evolution of nailing that tree.

zlathim · 10-09-2019, 08:17 AM

If everything goes right, here is how I do it:

I stage as shallow as possible. I try to barely turn on the second bulb on the staging lights. I pre-load the drivetrain just as acammer has described in a bunch of the threads in this sub topic.

I start my pre-load hopefully just before (or just after) the first yellow bulb illuminates. In other words, don't sit there slipping the clutch as soon as both cars are staged if you are racing a 16 second car.

As soon as the 3rd amber light illuminates, I'm off the handbrake and hopefully letting the clutch slip enough that my RPMs stay in the healthy range as I launch. By the time I've rolled far enough to break the beams, the green light has hopefully only been on for 0.0xx seconds, but no longer than 0.15x, or I just lost the race.

I'm still working on it. When my staging routine gets interrupted (delay on the track, etc.) I usually screw something up. I treat it like a basketball free throw. Do everything, starting with my burnout exactly the same each time. When I'm dialed, I can win races. Usually I'm not as dialed as I'd like to be, but this is my first season of racing in 30 years, so I'm happy with the progress I've made.

Keep after it. I've looked at most of your posts in this section and it's obvious that you have the spirit. I was lucky enough to get into a small tight class of racers, and those guys helped me a bunch. The best help I got was from my imaginary internet friend acammer, who helped me immensely. Not only with racing, but also building my car. Otherwise, I would have been in here asking all of the same questions you are.

Keep at it and good luck.

frankwjr · 10-09-2019, 04:35 PM

mello yellow go on yellow...last yellow for me...got a .0015 one time...felt kinda good about it...rest of the run was sh!t tho...

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proof...

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it's also fun leavin on sleepers "cuss you know they are taking a quick look at you leavin which makes their RT slower still. I try to act like I have horse blinders on and it's just me and the tree.

l8tr

PEACE

SSEssence · 10-09-2019, 04:41 PM

Yup third yellow I usually launch it and hope it goes well

Maroon 6.2L SS · 10-09-2019, 06:23 PM

yah at milan dragway we have pro, super pro and sportsman. I run in the sportsman class. Max E.T 11.50. The guys in the pro class must me using something to help with R.T. On sunday when I was racing, there were two cars in the pro class that caught a perfect R.T (.000).

Maroon 6.2L SS · 10-09-2019, 06:35 PM

zlathim, I'm the same way. I'm focused and ready to go, can't even hear people talking etc... If something happens on the track before I do the burnout I feel like everything is interrupted and I have to start over. The best part is when I get a guy beside me revving his engine or testing out his braking and torque coverter just before we leave the staging lanes (trying to intimidate). I don't even look at them, although I so badly want to.

Vegas Bound · 10-09-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maroon 6.2L SS

yah at milan dragway we have pro, super pro and sportsman. I run in the sportsman class. Max E.T 11.50. The guys in the pro class must me using something to help with R.T. On sunday when I was racing, there were two cars in the pro class that caught a perfect R.T (.000).

I've had 2 perfect reaction times, 0.000, in all the years I have been racing and they came on the same day. I was on that tree.

Vegas Bound · 10-09-2019, 08:44 PM

Here is a tip I was taught many years ago. Once you are staged, shallow is preferable, only look at the third yellow bulb, when it starts to light, you go. Don't follow the bulbs as they light, it will slow your reaction time.

Crankshaft · 10-09-2019, 08:56 PM

I used to practice counting to cut down on reaction time, I have gotten DQ'd because it's humanly impossible to have a reaction time as quick given that you are trying to go AT the same time as green. I taught my sister in law the trick and she also got disqualified for state swimming back in 2012.

10-07-2019, 06:20 PM	#1
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	When do you leave on the tree? I have to leave just before the second light goes out. Guessing game!!! If I leave when the third light comes on my R.T is terrible.

10-08-2019, 06:51 PM	#4
Overflow Space Shuttle Aficionado Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 30,899 View My Garage	Once the 3rd yellow lights up. __________________

10-09-2019, 08:17 AM	#7
zlathim Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 726	If everything goes right, here is how I do it: I stage as shallow as possible. I try to barely turn on the second bulb on the staging lights. I pre-load the drivetrain just as acammer has described in a bunch of the threads in this sub topic. I start my pre-load hopefully just before (or just after) the first yellow bulb illuminates. In other words, don't sit there slipping the clutch as soon as both cars are staged if you are racing a 16 second car. As soon as the 3rd amber light illuminates, I'm off the handbrake and hopefully letting the clutch slip enough that my RPMs stay in the healthy range as I launch. By the time I've rolled far enough to break the beams, the green light has hopefully only been on for 0.0xx seconds, but no longer than 0.15x, or I just lost the race. I'm still working on it. When my staging routine gets interrupted (delay on the track, etc.) I usually screw something up. I treat it like a basketball free throw. Do everything, starting with my burnout exactly the same each time. When I'm dialed, I can win races. Usually I'm not as dialed as I'd like to be, but this is my first season of racing in 30 years, so I'm happy with the progress I've made. Keep after it. I've looked at most of your posts in this section and it's obvious that you have the spirit. I was lucky enough to get into a small tight class of racers, and those guys helped me a bunch. The best help I got was from my imaginary internet friend acammer, who helped me immensely. Not only with racing, but also building my car. Otherwise, I would have been in here asking all of the same questions you are. Keep at it and good luck. __________________ GPI SS2; EE E2 catch can; SP 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ hfc; FM AT 3" cat-back; CAI Cold Air Intake; AEM Wideband Tuned by GPI McCleod RXT; MGW flat stick; Ram Clutch slave cylinder & hydraulic adjuster BMR cradle & diff bushings, trailing arms, toe rods & upper control arm bushings Hotchkis sub-frame brace Stop Tech Z-23 brakes 4.10 gears, Eaton Truetrac, LPW diff cover Best 1/4 mile 12.073 @ 115.68 mph 3,300 ft DA Last edited by zlathim; 10-09-2019 at 06:09 PM.

10-09-2019, 04:35 PM	#8
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	mello yellow go on yellow...last yellow for me...got a .0015 one time...felt kinda good about it...rest of the run was sh!t tho... oh... proof... it's also fun leavin on sleepers "cuss you know they are taking a quick look at you leavin which makes their RT slower still. I try to act like I have horse blinders on and it's just me and the tree. l8tr PEACE __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

10-09-2019, 04:41 PM	#9
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,803 View My Garage	Yup third yellow I usually launch it and hope it goes well __________________ 2019 SS 1LE - "CaSSandra" 2014 SS - "AleSSandra - Sold" 94 Z28 - Sold Follow the build https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612717

10-08-2019, 06:30 PM	#3
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	acammer, I hear ya. I wish I was a chaser!!! I dialed in at 12.85 (dialed up a tad) Sunday and raced a guy dialed at 11.50 (in sportsmans class, that was the max they could dial). I had him 7/8ths of the track. I pedaled at the last minute and stayed ahead of him a foot maybe 30yds away from the line but then he dropped on me right at the end. I broke out and he ran 11.507. It was pretty exciting!!!

10-08-2019, 07:40 PM	#5
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	As the 3rd light comes on, I am leaving. Shallow stage.

10-09-2019, 06:23 PM	#10
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	yah at milan dragway we have pro, super pro and sportsman. I run in the sportsman class. Max E.T 11.50. The guys in the pro class must me using something to help with R.T. On sunday when I was racing, there were two cars in the pro class that caught a perfect R.T (.000).

10-09-2019, 06:35 PM	#11
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	zlathim, I'm the same way. I'm focused and ready to go, can't even hear people talking etc... If something happens on the track before I do the burnout I feel like everything is interrupted and I have to start over. The best part is when I get a guy beside me revving his engine or testing out his braking and torque coverter just before we leave the staging lanes (trying to intimidate). I don't even look at them, although I so badly want to.

10-09-2019, 08:44 PM	#13
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	Here is a tip I was taught many years ago. Once you are staged, shallow is preferable, only look at the third yellow bulb, when it starts to light, you go. Don't follow the bulbs as they light, it will slow your reaction time.

10-09-2019, 08:56 PM	#14
Crankshaft Drives: 2011 Chevrolet Camaro ss Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Land of Whataburger Posts: 98	I used to practice counting to cut down on reaction time, I have gotten DQ'd because it's humanly impossible to have a reaction time as quick given that you are trying to go AT the same time as green. I taught my sister in law the trick and she also got disqualified for state swimming back in 2012.