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RupertPupkin · 08-22-2022, 08:23 AM

Wrist pin upgrade worth it for an 800-1000whp car? All street

morepowerjoe · 08-22-2022, 02:09 PM

Depends on the piston. Can the piston hold that amount of power? On my dss pistons they can take up too like 1500hp but only 800hp without the wrist pin upgrade.

RupertPupkin · 08-22-2022, 03:53 PM

It'll be a forged rotating assembly. Either wiseco or diamond pistons with k1 rods and crank. I think for the little added cost, it's cheap insurance.

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-23-2022, 03:37 PM

Yea, back in the day when we did a big engine build with forged pistons,rods and crank, we also updated the wrist pins just for good measure. That way everything has been updated, and should all be good to go. Didn't want to get it all together and for whatever reason, have a wrist pin fail, that would just plain suck after all that work. Good insurance.

morepowerjoe · 08-25-2022, 01:36 AM

But are you going to make over 800hp is the question? Tom over at dss told me that over 800hp it would be a good idea to upgrade the pin. So I'm thinking it could handle a little more considering even if you did make over 800hp it would be ok because how often are you going to use your engine to it's true potential anyways? So, if you know you are going to go over 800hp then I would say yeah it might be a good idea to upgrade the pin I just don't see the need for mine because even with a pro charger I'm still only going to make right around 800hp anyways. I guess it's just depending on what you're shooting for

RupertPupkin · 08-30-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

But are you going to make over 800hp is the question? Tom over at dss told me that over 800hp it would be a good idea to upgrade the pin. So I'm thinking it could handle a little more considering even if you did make over 800hp it would be ok because how often are you going to use your engine to it's true potential anyways? So, if you know you are going to go over 800hp then I would say yeah it might be a good idea to upgrade the pin I just don't see the need for mine because even with a pro charger I'm still only going to make right around 800hp anyways. I guess it's just depending on what you're shooting for

I'll be between 800-850whp....so yes I'll be over 800hp

morepowerjoe · 08-31-2022, 01:41 AM

I talked to my machinist, and he told me they always go higher on the hp numbers that are advertised on the wrist pins. He said as much as 600 hp more in some applications like a wiseco pistons. And after comparing my DSS FX pistons to the wiseco piston the wrist pin is much beefier on the dss piston that where the owner of dss told me it would be a good idea to do a wrist pin upgrade at 800 hp. He said with my pistons he doesn't think I would even need an upgraded wrist pin until like 1500 hp but that is just a visual assumption though based on the thickness of the two pins compared. So, I think you'd be fine with a standard pin on a wiseco or a dss piston for sure with 850 hp.

08-22-2022, 08:23 AM	#1
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,692	Wrist pin upgrade worth it? Wrist pin upgrade worth it for an 800-1000whp car? All street __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

08-22-2022, 02:09 PM	#2
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,191	Depends on the piston. Can the piston hold that amount of power? On my dss pistons they can take up too like 1500hp but only 800hp without the wrist pin upgrade. __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

08-22-2022, 03:53 PM	#3
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,692	It'll be a forged rotating assembly. Either wiseco or diamond pistons with k1 rods and crank. I think for the little added cost, it's cheap insurance. __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

08-23-2022, 03:37 PM	#4
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,765	Yea, back in the day when we did a big engine build with forged pistons,rods and crank, we also updated the wrist pins just for good measure. That way everything has been updated, and should all be good to go. Didn't want to get it all together and for whatever reason, have a wrist pin fail, that would just plain suck after all that work. Good insurance. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

08-25-2022, 01:36 AM	#5
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,191	But are you going to make over 800hp is the question? Tom over at dss told me that over 800hp it would be a good idea to upgrade the pin. So I'm thinking it could handle a little more considering even if you did make over 800hp it would be ok because how often are you going to use your engine to it's true potential anyways? So, if you know you are going to go over 800hp then I would say yeah it might be a good idea to upgrade the pin I just don't see the need for mine because even with a pro charger I'm still only going to make right around 800hp anyways. I guess it's just depending on what you're shooting for __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

08-31-2022, 01:41 AM	#7
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,191	I talked to my machinist, and he told me they always go higher on the hp numbers that are advertised on the wrist pins. He said as much as 600 hp more in some applications like a wiseco pistons. And after comparing my DSS FX pistons to the wiseco piston the wrist pin is much beefier on the dss piston that where the owner of dss told me it would be a good idea to do a wrist pin upgrade at 800 hp. He said with my pistons he doesn't think I would even need an upgraded wrist pin until like 1500 hp but that is just a visual assumption though based on the thickness of the two pins compared. So, I think you'd be fine with a standard pin on a wiseco or a dss piston for sure with 850 hp. __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817