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Orange 2010 Camaro · 01-27-2016, 01:21 PM

I have a 2010 2SS/RS with only 12000 mi. on the clock that has a small oil leak where the oil cooler casting bolts to the block. I have tightened the two mounting bolts a little tighter, but the leak is still there. The car is out of the factory warranty so it is up to me to fix it or just put up with it.

I did confirm that it is leaking from the gasket & not the freeze plug in the end of the casting & that would be an easy fix just replacing the gasket, but I am now thinking of just removing the cooler & the coolant lines to it eliminating any future leaks.

My question is, after you removed the factory oil cooler are the engine oil temps staying close to where they need to be in the 210- 220 degree range for a daily driven car? Also, what tool did you use to remove the threaded fitting in the side of the block that you need to plug that is used for the coolant supply to the cooler?

Thanks SO MUCH in advance for your help.

All The Best

Orange 2010 Camaro

TXM62SS · 01-27-2016, 01:28 PM

I removed mine about a month ago and my oil temps are exactly the same (just above 200 deg). I used some pliers to get the fitting out of the block. It was a little difficult to remove due to the tight space. I did a little write up on it a few weeks ago. I would say go for. I removed mine due to coolant leak at the said fitting you are referring too.

GoldCartridgeGamer · 01-27-2016, 02:24 PM

Link to his write up: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434875

xc_SS/RS · 01-27-2016, 03:34 PM

Does the oil heat up as quickly as it did before removing that cooler?

TXM62SS · 01-27-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Does the oil heat up as quickly as it did before removing that cooler?

Unfortunately it does not for me. I was hoping it would but no such luck.

xc_SS/RS · 01-27-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TXM62SS

Unfortunately it does not for me. I was hoping it would but no such luck.

Thanks for the answer. Might not do this then unless mine starts to leak

mar10 · 01-27-2016, 07:53 PM

I'm pretty sure that the oil temp gauge is not accurate. It is basically an estimate done by the computer based on rpms and speed not an actual temp reading. The temp displayed is estimated based on the stock system. So removing the oil cooler or adding an aftermarket one probably won't change what the factory gauge reads.

ackeight · 01-29-2016, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mar10

I'm pretty sure that the oil temp gauge is not accurate. It is basically an estimate done by the computer based on rpms and speed not an actual temp reading. The temp displayed is estimated based on the stock system. So removing the oil cooler or adding an aftermarket one probably won't change what the factory gauge reads.

I thought that was true too. After a bit of research, the oil temp is integrated with the Oil level sensor. I have not got a firm answer from a true Camaro guru if this is true or not.

Bo White · 01-29-2016, 09:21 AM

The factory piece is actually more of an oil heater than a cooler. Mine has been off for a year now.
The factory piece is designed to heat the oil up quickly for emissions purposes.

xc_SS/RS · 01-29-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mar10

I'm pretty sure that the oil temp gauge is not accurate. It is basically an estimate done by the computer based on rpms and speed not an actual temp reading. The temp displayed is estimated based on the stock system. So removing the oil cooler or adding an aftermarket one probably won't change what the factory gauge reads.

I would be interested in seeing a comparison to the stock gauge with an aftermarket gauge or a scan gauge.

If it is a calculated amount based on engine rpm and the cars speed then wouldn't deleting the stock cooler/warmer not cause a difference in the reading of the stock gauge?

Pro Stock John · 01-29-2016, 10:23 AM

Other cars don't even have factory oil coolers, the G8 for example.

Unreal · 01-29-2016, 10:29 AM

Or most corvettes.

xc_SS/RS · 01-29-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

Other cars don't even have factory oil coolers, the G8 for example.

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Originally Posted by Unreal

Or most corvettes.

So I guess technically it isn't even necessary for our cars is it? A good external cooler is good for those who run road courses but for daily drivers or those who do a few track days the stock cooler isn't necessary?

Orange 2010 Camaro · 01-29-2016, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

So I guess technically it isn't even necessary for our cars is it? A good external cooler is good for those who run road courses but for daily drivers or those who do a few track days the stock cooler isn't necessary?

A BIG Thanks to ALL of you who have helped me with the comments & information regarding the oil cooler delete. Looks like mine is going to end up in a box in my garage.

It will also clean up some of the clutter on the drivers side of the engine!

All The Best,

Orange 2010 Camaro

01-27-2016, 01:21 PM	#1
Orange 2010 Camaro Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United States Posts: 268	ENGINE TEMPS AFTER OIL COOLER DELETE QUESTION? I have a 2010 2SS/RS with only 12000 mi. on the clock that has a small oil leak where the oil cooler casting bolts to the block. I have tightened the two mounting bolts a little tighter, but the leak is still there. The car is out of the factory warranty so it is up to me to fix it or just put up with it. I did confirm that it is leaking from the gasket & not the freeze plug in the end of the casting & that would be an easy fix just replacing the gasket, but I am now thinking of just removing the cooler & the coolant lines to it eliminating any future leaks. My question is, after you removed the factory oil cooler are the engine oil temps staying close to where they need to be in the 210- 220 degree range for a daily driven car? Also, what tool did you use to remove the threaded fitting in the side of the block that you need to plug that is used for the coolant supply to the cooler? Thanks SO MUCH in advance for your help. All The Best Orange 2010 Camaro Attached Images

01-27-2016, 01:28 PM	#2
TXM62SS Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 388	I removed mine about a month ago and my oil temps are exactly the same (just above 200 deg). I used some pliers to get the fitting out of the block. It was a little difficult to remove due to the tight space. I did a little write up on it a few weeks ago. I would say go for. I removed mine due to coolant leak at the said fitting you are referring too. __________________ Victory Red 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Camaro Pat G. Spec Cam from Cam Motion 228/236 .599/.599 112+2LSA Kooks 1-7/8" LTs w/ Cats Roto-Fab, Bo White TB, Borla Touring Catback 3.91 1LE Gears, MGW Tuned by Pat G Last edited by TXM62SS; 01-29-2016 at 09:18 AM.

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01-27-2016, 07:53 PM	#7
mar10 Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: AZ Posts: 406	I'm pretty sure that the oil temp gauge is not accurate. It is basically an estimate done by the computer based on rpms and speed not an actual temp reading. The temp displayed is estimated based on the stock system. So removing the oil cooler or adding an aftermarket one probably won't change what the factory gauge reads. __________________ Stainless Power Longtube headers, off road mids, stock H pipe, flowmaster mufflers, Vararam tune model intake, NightFury cam, and 91 octane email tune from Dynosteve @ rdpmotorsport.com. 473 rwhp and 430 ft. Lbs. @3,235 ft elevation.

01-29-2016, 09:21 AM	#9
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	The factory piece is actually more of an oil heater than a cooler. Mine has been off for a year now. The factory piece is designed to heat the oil up quickly for emissions purposes. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

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