12-10-2009, 06:30 PM | #1 |
Who doesn't want an LSA Z/28?
Okay first off lets keep this friendly cause i know a lot of people get touchy on subjects such as these.
So we've all heard the rumors of the Z/28 engines, ironicly we're looking at "the big three" we've got the LS7, the LS9, and seemingly everyone's favorite, the LSA. Me personally dont favor the LSA and with the overwhelming fanbase for it i was wondering who else might agree with me. For discussion purposes i'll list my reasons as to why i do not favor the LSA... 1.) It is a supercharged LS3, which nearly every aftermarket company and private owner seeking performance has already done thousands upon thousands of times. 2.) If all aftermarket companies (now including the new Yenko i guess) are going to be offering supercharged LS3 Camaros, why would i want a production model like that? It most likely be less powerful, cost more (Nickey Stage 2 is going for $40,000) and innevitably the aftermarket Nickeys and Yenkos will be rarer, more collectible, and more valuable anyways. 3.) Why use a supercharged 550hp engine when there is an N/A 550hp engine available? Despite rumors of it being terminated (yet to be seen as its still strongly supported in the Z06) 4.) Why not just add the LS9 anyways? Top of the line Corvette engines have been available in the past through COPO and other various sources. 5.) An LSA powered Camaro would basically be a re-badged CTS-V, and isnt that exactly what everyone wants GM to get away from these days? 6.) The LSA is the only engine out of the three without forged internals = weaker equipment 7.) Why use a 550hp supercharged LS3 when you have a 663hp supercharged LS3 available? I may think of more, these are just the issues i could think of on the spot... |
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12-10-2009, 07:04 PM | #2 | |
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12-10-2009, 07:05 PM | #3 | |
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so you dont want the LSA because its a supercharged ls3, but the ls9 would be cool being just an even more supercharged ls3?
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12-10-2009, 07:31 PM | #4 |
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Z got the axe... motor is a non issue now...:(
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12-10-2009, 07:44 PM | #5 | |
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I want an LSA...
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12-10-2009, 08:02 PM | #6 | |
o come on
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12-10-2009, 08:04 PM | #7 | |
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says who the rags I use to whip my rear?
there was never an offical release saying it was on for production. for one. now for two the same rags say it's gotten the axe? think it might be to sell more rags? I think so. . .lmao. Quote:
now to the OP. you left out one engine option which is quite possible. by the time the Z28 would debut the c7 vette will have been out. and everyone is speculating that the c7 will have the Gen V motor. so who's to say it won't have that engine. my feeling is I would accept the LSA but want an NA engine. I want that DI engine. I see great potential in that engine even though it hasn't been announced. |
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12-10-2009, 08:08 PM | #8 |
lol, remember the comment about "touchy issue?"
Personally i would consider the Z/28 a rebadged CTS-V because it would be 2-door, same engine, roughly same deminsions, very likely the same transmission, i mean yeah the platform may be different but how different is it really? looking at the two you'd probly never know the difference Now as for "weaker internals" i did mean "weaker" not weak itself, ive heard about the testing and yeah its impressive, but some still preffer those better parts...and yeah the LS7 doesnt have all the bells and whistles the LS9 has but its got a lot more in the way of that kinda stuff than the LSA Also ive heard everyone talking about the cost of the LS9, well how can we really set a price? All people are going by is the ZR1's price which, aside from the fact that there's so many carbon fiber and extra performance components, it was still a legendary car as soon as it hit the showroom floor, not to mention the cream of the crop of GM's crowned king of the crop, of course it'd be extremely expensive...does that make the engine horribly expensive? Not necessarily. The COPO comment was just proving putting the #1 Corvette engine in a productin Camaro has been more than considered before, its been carried out (also wasnt the 1LE the same way? Im not sure on that though) Really the big thing that has come to light for me is the warrenty issue |
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12-10-2009, 08:15 PM | #9 |
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I agree with you, id be perfectly fine with the LSA, its an awsome engine in itself i have nothing against it being in the race, im just saying maybe everyone's quick to speculate? Still, id be fine with it too Oh and the "LS9 would be fine over the LSA" thing, at that i meant a kind of "why settle for a smaller supercharger with less power when the LS9 is roughly the same with a greater charger and the most stock power ever seen in a production GM vehicle?" just to clarify i mean I dont mean to disrespect the LSA in any way |
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12-10-2009, 08:19 PM | #10 | |
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12-10-2009, 08:34 PM | #11 |
Hm, i was looking at this...i guess its just a coupe concept?
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12-10-2009, 09:21 PM | #12 | |
o come on
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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spi...-v_coupe-spied The CTS-V coupe is moving forward. I guess if you wanted to make any comparsoion to a V it would be to that one Another thing to consider is that the LSA for the CTS-V is an assembly line made motor this will help to keep the cost down instead of using a much more expensive motor like the LS9 or LS7 which are both hand built
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12-11-2009, 12:34 AM | #13 |
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The Z/28 would not be a re-badged CTS-V. It will have the same, if not more performance, but would not have near the luxury or interior quality of the Cadillac. It would also lower cost for both vehicles if the same engine is used in the CTS-V/Z28. Think of the Z/28 as an affordable, significantly less luxurious, performance variant of the CTS-V if you have to think of it being a rebadge.
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12-11-2009, 01:11 AM | #14 | |
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