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ITRIEDEL · 07-28-2014, 01:08 PM

Why the hell would someone buy a SS and then a 1LE SS just to say the 1LE was a waste a money? Sounds to me like someone bought some of the dealers BS.

tones2SS · 07-28-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

What GONIF really wants is a Z28, but he doesn't know it yet

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Yes. The Z28 is a gorgeous car. I looked at them online. I wouldn't mind one at all. The stance, the wheels, the tires, the aggressiveness of the car begs to be driven.
The only problem is it really "mostly" a track car. Not to say that you can't drive it on the street, but you have to be very careful. You have to make sure that those tires are hot and sticky to make them planted to the ground and don't make the rear end swing out from behind you. You just have to be VERY careful out in the cold weather.

shinzon · 07-28-2014, 10:34 PM

I had a 2010 SS and pu 110kmi on it. I traded it in on a 2014 1LE.

After 110,000 miles you can say I knew the car, power wise the cars are similar except certain gears pull harder than the other it seems 1st and 2nd the ss had a bit more grunt, but 3-4-5 the 1LE pull harder. Now turns is the ss I can take at 55-60 I can EASILY drive through at 80 . No lie no joke. I also had 275 20x9 on all four corners on the ss so the playing field for rubber was closer.

The 1LE is a great car, better than the SS In many ways. I know had em both trust me.

Now the Zl1 is considerably more money and the supercharger leaves a BIG question for LONGEVITY. Can I put 110k miles on that and have it still be reliable ? Dunno...I would bet against it. BUT performance wise it has a lot more hp/tq. If that much power was necessary at the track why the 7 litre in the z28 ? Less hp and tq.

I think what would settle this argument would be a run at the RING for the 1le. That seems like the world benchmark. I wonder why they NEVER ran it there ? Me thinks b/c it's number would be damn good.

I also enjoy the pedigree and history the 1le brings to the table, less production numbers that the zl1 is cool too.

Camaro Dude · 07-29-2014, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shinzon

I had a 2010 SS and pu 110kmi on it. I traded it in on a 2014 1LE.

After 110,000 miles you can say I knew the car, power wise the cars are similar except certain gears pull harder than the other it seems 1st and 2nd the ss had a bit more grunt, but 3-4-5 the 1LE pull harder. Now turns is the ss I can take at 55-60 I can EASILY drive through at 80 . No lie no joke. I also had 275 20x9 on all four corners on the ss so the playing field for rubber was closer.

The 1LE is a great car, better than the SS In many ways. I know had em both trust me.

Now the Zl1 is considerably more money and the supercharger leaves a BIG question for LONGEVITY. Can I put 110k miles on that and have it still be reliable ? Dunno...I would bet against it. BUT performance wise it has a lot more hp/tq. If that much power was necessary at the track why the 7 litre in the z28 ? Less hp and tq.

I think what would settle this argument would be a run at the RING for the 1le. That seems like the world benchmark. I wonder why they NEVER ran it there ? Me thinks b/c it's number would be damn good.

I also enjoy the pedigree and history the 1le brings to the table, less production numbers that the zl1 is cool too.

Regarding the Nurburgring, easy one to estimate. A 2010 Subaru WRX STI pulled 7 min 55.00 on the ring http://youtu.be/2To_5XjIaMk which is pretty darn good for a 310 hp compact sedan. I'm sure a 1LE with equivalent driver would easily trump the STI numbers. The ZL1 does it in 7min 41.27 for reference. A 2009 CTS-V 7:59.32.

Sgtrod · 09-02-2015, 04:53 PM

I know this is an old thread but I would say this...i would add a VTC to the 1LE....I had buyers remorse and own a ctsv....but after only a CAI and the VTC, i enjoy the shiz outta my car.

Love it for what it is....drive the hell out of it.

If your not having fun...the your driving too slow...hahahah

beany323 · 09-02-2015, 11:28 PM

i picked up a v6 for the commute and after less then a year was thinking zl1. but to be honest i grabbed a 1le and and happy with it. not tracking and only on weekends.

Joseph1LE · 09-03-2015, 06:45 AM

I wish I had got a Zl1. I get bored with power easily.. And I need to mod. Not only is the 1LE in stock form slower than my previous car, but it's also just very slow in general to where I don't even enjoy putting my foot down much. The 1LE may be faster on tighter road courses but the ZL1 is faster on bigger courses. But the main thing is how much fun I can have on the street and the ZL1 is the winner in that aspect. Also the supercharger whine.... Shit had me hooked on the car when I first heard it.

That said, I'm still proud to have a 1LE. I like the pedigree, history, and low production numbers as someone else mentioned above. I do NOT like having to explain it to people and I do NOT like people confusing it for a ZL1 (cause of the wheels I guess?) and then having to tell them that it's not.

MRREVINTO7 · 09-03-2015, 10:24 AM

keeping it simple ..i did lt arh exhaust vengeance racing cam kit with kaotic cam made 484/434 on a mustang dyno with a good tune i kept close to stock gas mileage and drivability ....1LE IS LIGHTER THAN A ZL1 BY ABOUT 200LBS AND its faster at the same power levels ..unless its an automatic with big power ...do a nice cam and be done !!!

camaro692 · 09-03-2015, 07:31 PM

I could have had either, but IMHO the 1LE looks way better. I don't like the bulky look of the ZL1. I much prefer the new smaller grille opening of the 1LE. I am installing an AGP kit next week to make up for the power difference tho

07-28-2014, 01:08 PM	#99
ITRIEDEL Drives: 2013 CTS-V Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 40	Why the hell would someone buy a SS and then a 1LE SS just to say the 1LE was a waste a money? Sounds to me like someone bought some of the dealers BS. __________________ Now: 2013 CTS-V Previous: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 (bolt-ons) 2003 Nissan SER Spec-V 2008 Highland Green Bullitt 1994 Cobra 70mm Turbo (571rwhp) 1996 Mustang 2003 Mustang GT (bolt-ons) 1991 DSM FWD (2g hybrid) 1975 Chevrolet Camaro 1991 Corvette 1974 Chevrolet Nova

07-28-2014, 10:34 PM	#101
shinzon Night Fury Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Isle of Birk Posts: 747	I had a 2010 SS and pu 110kmi on it. I traded it in on a 2014 1LE. After 110,000 miles you can say I knew the car, power wise the cars are similar except certain gears pull harder than the other it seems 1st and 2nd the ss had a bit more grunt, but 3-4-5 the 1LE pull harder. Now turns is the ss I can take at 55-60 I can EASILY drive through at 80 . No lie no joke. I also had 275 20x9 on all four corners on the ss so the playing field for rubber was closer. The 1LE is a great car, better than the SS In many ways. I know had em both trust me. Now the Zl1 is considerably more money and the supercharger leaves a BIG question for LONGEVITY. Can I put 110k miles on that and have it still be reliable ? Dunno...I would bet against it. BUT performance wise it has a lot more hp/tq. If that much power was necessary at the track why the 7 litre in the z28 ? Less hp and tq. I think what would settle this argument would be a run at the RING for the 1le. That seems like the world benchmark. I wonder why they NEVER ran it there ? Me thinks b/c it's number would be damn good. I also enjoy the pedigree and history the 1le brings to the table, less production numbers that the zl1 is cool too. __________________ 2014 Black ZL1 - Toothless - Previous Lovers :2014 1LE , 2010 2SS RS,2004 GTO, 2000 Camaro SS x 2

09-02-2015, 11:28 PM	#104
beany323 Drives: Camaro 2SS /RS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Cali. Posts: 1,566 View My Garage	i picked up a v6 for the commute and after less then a year was thinking zl1. but to be honest i grabbed a 1le and and happy with it. not tracking and only on weekends. __________________ "The fact the GT500 can barely beat a $37k car with 200 less horsepower speaks volumes. There are about a million mods you can do to a LS3 to make a Camaro do the 1/4 faster then a GT500." (Vroom.) Updated w/ Willow Springs: 1. Nissan GTR Track Pack 1:19.6 2. Ducati 1198 S 1:19.7 3. Nissan GTR 1:20.3 4. Corvette Z06 1:20.4 5. Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:22.0 6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:22.3 7. CAMARO SS 1LE 1:22.7 8. Shelby GT 500 1:23.5 9. Mustang Gt Track Pack 1:25.8

09-03-2015, 06:45 AM	#105
Joseph1LE Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE, 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 836	I wish I had got a Zl1. I get bored with power easily.. And I need to mod. Not only is the 1LE in stock form slower than my previous car, but it's also just very slow in general to where I don't even enjoy putting my foot down much. The 1LE may be faster on tighter road courses but the ZL1 is faster on bigger courses. But the main thing is how much fun I can have on the street and the ZL1 is the winner in that aspect. Also the supercharger whine.... Shit had me hooked on the car when I first heard it. That said, I'm still proud to have a 1LE. I like the pedigree, history, and low production numbers as someone else mentioned above. I do NOT like having to explain it to people and I do NOT like people confusing it for a ZL1 (cause of the wheels I guess?) and then having to tell them that it's not. __________________ 2017 GMC Canyon All Terrain- daily driver/dirt bike hauler 2015 Camaro SS 1LE- sold 2001 Camaro SS SOM M6- sold 1999 Firebird Formula A4- sold

09-03-2015, 07:31 PM	#107
camaro692 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, G8 GT, HD FLHRX Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 309	I could have had either, but IMHO the 1LE looks way better. I don't like the bulky look of the ZL1. I much prefer the new smaller grille opening of the 1LE. I am installing an AGP kit next week to make up for the power difference tho __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGP

09-02-2015, 04:53 PM	#103
Sgtrod Drives: Camaro 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miami Posts: 119	I know this is an old thread but I would say this...i would add a VTC to the 1LE....I had buyers remorse and own a ctsv....but after only a CAI and the VTC, i enjoy the shiz outta my car. Love it for what it is....drive the hell out of it. If your not having fun...the your driving too slow...hahahah

09-03-2015, 10:24 AM	#106
MRREVINTO7 Drives: 14 1Le --14 chevy ss sedan 07shelby Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: ny Posts: 357	keeping it simple ..i did lt arh exhaust vengeance racing cam kit with kaotic cam made 484/434 on a mustang dyno with a good tune i kept close to stock gas mileage and drivability ....1LE IS LIGHTER THAN A ZL1 BY ABOUT 200LBS AND its faster at the same power levels ..unless its an automatic with big power ...do a nice cam and be done !!!