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doc7000 · 11-17-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee9710

I dont either......I tried to make a point earlier that when my SS only had a few bolt ons and a tune, that the GT500s in my area could barely beat me or sometimes I would take them out. That it was pretty much a drivers race with all the extra power the Shelby had. I don't think the power difference will matter to Joe Everyman on te strip. But I was told I was dumb for it. If a 540 hp Shelby can have trouble with a 465 est hp barely modded SS, then I think Ford is in for a surprise.

That reminds me when Motor Trend tested a 426BHP SS camaro with a 540BHP GT500..

I couldn't understand why the Ford fans were dancing in the streets after the GT500 beat the Camaro SS.... they aren't competitors. A $50,000 540BHP GT500 vs a 426BHP $30,000 Camaro SS..... why would anyone want that race.

I don't think that people are paying attention to the simple fact that the Mustang platform has a hard time putting the higher power levels to the ground.

Granted we know next to nothing about the 2013 GT500 with 650BHP except the fact that it has 650BHP. We also know just a bit more about the ZL1 Camaro so really only time will tell. Maybe Ford figured out how to get the power down effectively on the Mustang and that would be enough to turn the tides.

As far as cornering I don't think there is much that can be done to get the Mustang up to the cornering ability of the ZL1 (based on GMs specs). 1.0G on the skid pad at 4,200 pounds is simply put impressive considering that its what the 3,650 pound Boss 302 can pull at 550 pounds less weight.

PQ · 11-17-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

no fair... you have a small head and therefore a small hat...lmao

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Best post of the day!

Fair, but reletive to that, I have a small belly and i......................... nvmd

LAWMAN · 11-17-2011, 05:18 PM

i wonder if G.M. is sandbagging on the hp numbers for the z?......possibility for insurance reasons,G.M. has been known to do that over it's history,look at the v-6 when it first came out,

LAWMAN · 11-17-2011, 05:30 PM

from what i understand g.m.is to release price next week

ShnOmac · 11-17-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LAWMAN

from what i understand g.m.is to release price next week

Price of?

PQ · 11-17-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Price of?

The 2014, 720 hp ZL1 ....

ShnOmac · 11-17-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

The 2014, 720 hp ZL1 ....

now you dun did it....

Fightinfire921 · 11-17-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LAWMAN

from what i understand g.m.is to release price next week

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Price of?

The new 680 HP Z/28.

Uneducated Guess · 11-17-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z

The new 680 HP Z/28.

Shurenuff · 11-17-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Considering the cost it's a lot to pay to only watch a better car come out a year later. They'll start pissing people off. To buy a phone this week and see a better one by the same company a week later kinda gets irritating. But it's just a phone. To spend 60k+ only to see a better product by the same company the next year would really suck.

You hit the nail on the head. I couldn't care less about the GT500 since I have no interest, but this as a 2012 owner is my real concern.

I'm expecting improvements for MY2014, but if they answer back immediately for the MY2013 ZL1, I will definitely be upset.

PQ · 11-17-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shurenuff

You hit the nail on the head. I couldn't care less about the GT500 since I have no interest, but this as a 2012 owner this is my real concern.

I'm expecting improvements for MY2014, but if they answer back immediately for the MY2013 ZL1, I will definitely be upset.

Don't worry. They won't.

b4z · 11-17-2011, 07:26 PM

The irony of the GT500 with a solid rear axle not being able to launch as well as the IRS Camaro is not lost on me.

PQ · 11-17-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by b4z

The irony of the GT500 with a solid rear axle not being able to launch as well as the IRS Camaro is not lost on me.

Unless they put IRS on it.

FreddyG · 11-17-2011, 07:31 PM

I've seen Cobra's that need 800+ rwhp to run in the 10's.

Unless Ford does something different, the ZL1 doesn't have anything to worry about!

The other thing that GM did right was to offer the ZL1 with an automatic! Ford offers stick only.

Now, I guess I'll wait for a slightly used ZL1 to come up next year or a Heavily modded SS when someone steps up to a ZL1!

By the way PQ, your car looks as nice or nicer than a ZL1 and I'll bet it runs pretty good too!

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LAWMAN Drives: 2010 cam.2ss/rs.iom,07'escalade esv Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pasc.Ms. Posts: 841	i wonder if G.M. is sandbagging on the hp numbers for the z?......possibility for insurance reasons,G.M. has been known to do that over it's history,look at the v-6 when it first came out, __________________ A9120159 1100:12/19/08 3800:06/19/09 6000:07/02/09

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FreddyG Drives: 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT 392 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 161	I've seen Cobra's that need 800+ rwhp to run in the 10's. Unless Ford does something different, the ZL1 doesn't have anything to worry about! The other thing that GM did right was to offer the ZL1 with an automatic! Ford offers stick only. Now, I guess I'll wait for a slightly used ZL1 to come up next year or a Heavily modded SS when someone steps up to a ZL1! By the way PQ, your car looks as nice or nicer than a ZL1 and I'll bet it runs pretty good too!