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Old 07-21-2011, 02:12 PM   #1
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stock Internals at the track

I have a camaro with close to 600 whp. I love to drag race but I haven't been able to take my car to the track since it was modified. I already have a set of DRs for my car for when ever I get the chance to take my baby to the track. Last night I was talking to a friend about it, and he told me that If the car ever hooked, I was going to blow the internals of the engine. I'm running a safe tune on it with a meth kit as insurance.

What do you guys think? Is there any one with similar HP and stock internals running his car on the track with DRs?

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Old 07-21-2011, 02:58 PM   #2
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The engine can handle that and a whole lot more. It all depends on your tune.

My cousin has been running his stock engine(sans cam & springs) with a Maggie on 14 psi and 100 shot(nitrous) without issue for more than a year now. He races it every chance he gets and runs consistent 10.3's.

Again, you can blow the engine with no bolt-ons with a bad tune and it can survive with 800 on a good tune.
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I'd worry about the axles, driveshaft and diff before the motor.
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:49 PM   #4
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Yeah its not the engine that gets shocked its the tranny, driveshaft, diff, and axles. As long as you don't hit valve float or over-rev the engine it'll be fine with a safe tune and meth. Detonation or too much psi will kill the engine not launches.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:48 AM   #5
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If your not getting any detonation, and not revving over the stock 6700... I wouldn't think any immediate motor kaboom is threatening.

With that much power, blower belt load on the cast crank.... it would never pass the OE validation where they full load dyno test it for a few days to simulate 100K + of miles. Long term life expectancy maybe shortened a bit from the big increase in power, But still shouldn't grenade from just a couple passes down the track.

Like earlier mentioned, I'd be more concerned with the rest of the drivetrain on a tacky surface with a slick. I'd keep the launch RPMs reasonable and no speed shifts. Instead of hammering into the throttle at launch and shifts, roll into it quickly. Upgraded trailing arms, toe links, bushings... should help. Will be tough to get a good burnout too if you don't have line lock. Maybe just spin them hard in second in the water and let it roll out of the water spinning fast in second. I've seen many stand on the brakes trying to do a burn out and wind up frying the diff clutches with a one wheel burnout.
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Just be sure to fill it with race gas and you should be fine. As always, it's never 100% foolproof but that's about the best precaution you can take. Now hurry up and get to the track. I sent you those dr's almost 18 months ago!!!!
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i have similar, you are good to give it a run,, only problems you may encounter , that is trouble is the dreaded wheel hop. start out with some learning runs to make sure wheel hop is not gonna be a issue...try the 2500 launch with some slip clutch and gas , then early shift 2nd around 5 to 5,500k rpm..i powershift the rest....if you have no problem there you are good to go...tach it up a little more the next ime around...if wheelhop is issue then come back . i am working my wheelhop issues and was gonna run tonight but got rained out...added trl arms..might raise coilovers back up to stock height in rear..for track
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Guys, Thanks for the replies. What suspension mods should you do to try to eliminate wheelhop? I was going to modify my cars suspension but, because of work, I haven't been able to do it...
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Guys, Thanks for the replies. What suspension mods should you do to try to eliminate wheelhop? I was going to modify my cars suspension but, because of work, I haven't been able to do it...
I run similar hp and torque as you. I run DR's and have about 60 passes this season alone on the car. Well over 100 passes total with the stock bottom end. I believe your weak link will be an axle. I put in DSS 1400 hp axles. I do however, plan to stroke and forge the motor this winter.

For wheel hop issues, a good start would be diff bushings, solid sub frame bushings and trailing arms. Pfadt suspension products are my preference.

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if you can,t do everything ..get the trl arms 1st, and dropped camaros, have more tendency to hop..drop some air pressure in rear to soften sidewall a little
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Did anyone else catch this month's issue of Hot Rod where they have pushed a junkyard 5.3 liter LS motor with nothing more than opening up the upper ring gap to over 1200hp with a pair of turbos, pretty impressive!
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The engine can handle that and a whole lot more. It all depends on your tune.

My cousin has been running his stock engine(sans cam & springs) with a Maggie on 14 psi and 100 shot(nitrous) without issue for more than a year now. He races it every chance he gets and runs consistent 10.3's.

Again, you can blow the engine with no bolt-ons with a bad tune and it can survive with 800 on a good tune.
Where does your cousin run?

Been hearing stories about some sick camaros running low 10s with procharger and nitrous with stock engines.

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