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FunkedOut · 01-09-2016, 07:07 PM

the only other thing no one has mentioned is the holes on the (front) struts for the end links.
they are 12mm on the 1LE struts (FE4, FE5 & FE6 actually), and so are the end link bolts.
on your 2010 (FE3), the holes are 10mm and so are your end link bolts.

you can just put them in and forget the mismatch of the bolt and hole.
this may (will) lead to some noise when the sway bar shifts from pulling to pulling.
think "clunk" when turning hard.

you can sleeve the bolt if you can make yourself one.

you can upgrade front end links to 12mm versions and either drill out your sway bar to 12mm or get a new one.

you can also view this as an opportunity to get new sway bars on front and rear.
you'll need new drop links and lower control arms on the rear.

don't forget to time your bushings for the new ride height and get an alignment.

hammdo · 01-09-2016, 07:37 PM

I got the new sways (bmr) with the upgrade so it's an FE4 update front and rear on mine...

-Don

spadz93 · 01-11-2016, 10:18 AM

Wish i'd seen this thread, I literally just made one asking for recommendations for a new suspension setup and was debating the 1LE setup

JDP Sales · 01-11-2016, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spadz93

Wish i'd seen this thread, I literally just made one asking for recommendations for a new suspension setup and was debating the 1LE setup

Don't worry, someone will blast you for it soon, i'm sure

Jared Royce

Avenging Orange · 01-12-2016, 05:07 PM

Guess it depends on what you want your car to do. Personally, after reading a lot of post from BMR/JDP/JP, I'd upgrade sway bars along with what you already have. Also bear in mind, the 2012+ SS struts are much improved over the 2010/11 and are a direct fit. I think with you springs, upgraded SS struts and a good set of sways, you'd be feeling pretty sticky. Good luck.

Matt8892 · 01-12-2016, 06:53 PM

Holy crap... I forgot I made this thread.... I was contemplating 1le sho KS cause there was a very low mileage set for sale for cheap. But turns out they got sold. So unless I get some killer deal, I'll just do lowering Springs in the spring. And eventually sway bars. and take it from there. I don't track the car, but definitely live upgrading and bettering my car and having the option and ability to do certain things.

Also, roads semi suck here in NJ. The roads I normally drive aren't that horrible though.

xc_SS/RS · 01-12-2016, 07:11 PM

Get new sway bars and 1LE shocks. You will be very happy, I'm going to go that route this year since 2010's have the FE3 shocks which aren't anywhere near as good as the 1LE shocks.

Matt8892 · 01-12-2016, 07:24 PM

The money though! I may have to hold off on new dampers. What about new sway bar links? Are those beneficial to upgrade? The rear sway bar seems easy to swap, but the front one looks snaked in there. What about doing just rear sway bar?

Edit : just read jdp website and it says they recommend doing both front and rear to maintain balance. Nevermind.

Avenging Orange · 01-13-2016, 05:11 PM

You can do rear sway only. In fact, many believe in stiffer rear, lesser front.

Matt8892 · 01-13-2016, 06:33 PM

That's interesting. Maybe just rear sway bar and near links for both front and back?

xc_SS/RS · 01-14-2016, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt8892

The money though! I may have to hold off on new dampers. What about new sway bar links? Are those beneficial to upgrade? The rear sway bar seems easy to swap, but the front one looks snaked in there. What about doing just rear sway bar?

Edit : just read jdp website and it says they recommend doing both front and rear to maintain balance. Nevermind.

You can do the ZL1 rear sway bar if you upgrade to the FE4 rear control arms and leave your front sway bar to get closer to more neutral handling if I can remember what JusticePete has wrote on here regarding sway bars

camarosspower · 01-15-2016, 11:51 PM

Just my .02 don't swap out shocks only if you're doing springs in the future. It's the same work do it while you're there and only align it one time. Not once for the shocks then later for the springs

Cheap Guy · 07-09-2019, 02:52 PM

I know this is an old thread but I figured I'd use it instead of starting a new one.

Reading this and other threads it got a little confusing regarding upgrading my 2011 SS.
In short, I will be putting 1LE shocks and struts on soon. I already have the mounts but do I need anything else if I...

1. Just want to swap out the front and rear shocks and struts or...
2. Add the rear 1LE sway bar along with the shocks/struts.

Is it correct that nothing is need to do the front if i'm NOT changing the front sway bar and it will just bolt right in? Do I really need to replace the control arms if I decide to NOT change the rear bar? If I DO change the rear bar, what exactly do I need to replace?

Disregard - Everything is explained in the 1LE sticky.

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244570

Thanks folks!

olblue75 · 07-10-2019, 01:28 AM

If you use a 1LE bar in the front you'll have to upgrade to the DSE front sway bar link they have bushing for the strut 10-12 mm.
For the back you'll need the updated LCA's and endlinks and of course a 1LE bar.
Best bang for your buck will be 1LE front with a DSE 35mm hollow or JPSS 32mm solid sway bar. That combo is the best sway bar wise.
If you haven't bought shocks yet an can afford it try the Bilstein B6s they are the hot ticket, the OEM front seem to bottom out every now and the and make a really bad noise.
Check Rock Auto or Summit and see who has the best price.

01-09-2016, 07:37 PM	#16
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	I got the new sways (bmr) with the upgrade so it's an FE4 update front and rear on mine... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

01-11-2016, 10:18 AM	#17
spadz93 BUMBL Z Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,573 View My Garage	Wish i'd seen this thread, I literally just made one asking for recommendations for a new suspension setup and was debating the 1LE setup __________________ Current: 2015 ZL1 M6, Rotofab Intake, LS3 throttle body, 2.55 Upper/9.17 Lower w/ Idler Relocation, DMS Reinforced Brick, ID1050X, 1 7/8" Headers, ProSpeed HX/Reservoir, DSX Aux Pump/Flex Fuel Sensor, E85, McLeod RXT, BMR 1" Drop, Tuned by Pat G Past: 2010 2SS, some bolt ons, 415rwhp/400rwtq

01-12-2016, 05:07 PM	#19
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Guess it depends on what you want your car to do. Personally, after reading a lot of post from BMR/JDP/JP, I'd upgrade sway bars along with what you already have. Also bear in mind, the 2012+ SS struts are much improved over the 2010/11 and are a direct fit. I think with you springs, upgraded SS struts and a good set of sways, you'd be feeling pretty sticky. Good luck. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

01-12-2016, 07:11 PM	#21
xc_SS/RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: somewhere in MD Posts: 4,884	Get new sway bars and 1LE shocks. You will be very happy, I'm going to go that route this year since 2010's have the FE3 shocks which aren't anywhere near as good as the 1LE shocks. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Z/28 intake, NW, FAST 102, speed engineering LT's, some exhaust, ATI -10% pulley, GM flex fuel injectors, DSX flex fuel sensor, MGW shifter, HP Tuners, some suspension work, stickers and a little weight loss. 12.63 @113.53

01-13-2016, 05:11 PM	#23
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	You can do rear sway only. In fact, many believe in stiffer rear, lesser front. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

01-09-2016, 07:07 PM	#15
FunkedOut Drives: Black 2010 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 447 View My Garage	the only other thing no one has mentioned is the holes on the (front) struts for the end links. they are 12mm on the 1LE struts (FE4, FE5 & FE6 actually), and so are the end link bolts. on your 2010 (FE3), the holes are 10mm and so are your end link bolts. you can just put them in and forget the mismatch of the bolt and hole. this may (will) lead to some noise when the sway bar shifts from pulling to pulling. think "clunk" when turning hard. you can sleeve the bolt if you can make yourself one. you can upgrade front end links to 12mm versions and either drill out your sway bar to 12mm or get a new one. you can also view this as an opportunity to get new sway bars on front and rear. you'll need new drop links and lower control arms on the rear. don't forget to time your bushings for the new ride height and get an alignment.

01-12-2016, 06:53 PM	#20
Matt8892 Drives: 2010 2ss RS. White (RIP) 2012 LS3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 484	Holy crap... I forgot I made this thread.... I was contemplating 1le sho KS cause there was a very low mileage set for sale for cheap. But turns out they got sold. So unless I get some killer deal, I'll just do lowering Springs in the spring. And eventually sway bars. and take it from there. I don't track the car, but definitely live upgrading and bettering my car and having the option and ability to do certain things. Also, roads semi suck here in NJ. The roads I normally drive aren't that horrible though.

01-12-2016, 07:24 PM	#22
Matt8892 Drives: 2010 2ss RS. White (RIP) 2012 LS3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 484	The money though! I may have to hold off on new dampers. What about new sway bar links? Are those beneficial to upgrade? The rear sway bar seems easy to swap, but the front one looks snaked in there. What about doing just rear sway bar? Edit : just read jdp website and it says they recommend doing both front and rear to maintain balance. Nevermind.

01-13-2016, 06:33 PM	#24
Matt8892 Drives: 2010 2ss RS. White (RIP) 2012 LS3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 484	That's interesting. Maybe just rear sway bar and near links for both front and back?

01-15-2016, 11:51 PM	#26
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Just my .02 don't swap out shocks only if you're doing springs in the future. It's the same work do it while you're there and only align it one time. Not once for the shocks then later for the springs

07-09-2019, 02:52 PM	#27
Cheap Guy Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 679	I know this is an old thread but I figured I'd use it instead of starting a new one. Reading this and other threads it got a little confusing regarding upgrading my 2011 SS. In short, I will be putting 1LE shocks and struts on soon. I already have the mounts but do I need anything else if I... 1. Just want to swap out the front and rear shocks and struts or... 2. Add the rear 1LE sway bar along with the shocks/struts. Is it correct that nothing is need to do the front if i'm NOT changing the front sway bar and it will just bolt right in? Do I really need to replace the control arms if I decide to NOT change the rear bar? If I DO change the rear bar, what exactly do I need to replace? Disregard - Everything is explained in the 1LE sticky. https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244570 Thanks folks! __________________ My Little Mid-Life Crisis Cure! First - 1997 Camaro 3800 Y87, M5, Green - Gone \| Second - 1997 LT1 Z28, M6, Silver - Sold \| Third - 1999 LS1 Z28, M6, Pewter, Almost Stock! - Sold Current - 2011 Camaro SS, M6, black, 1LE suspension parts - Current Last edited by Cheap Guy; 07-09-2019 at 10:57 PM.

07-10-2019, 01:28 AM	#28
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,061	If you use a 1LE bar in the front you'll have to upgrade to the DSE front sway bar link they have bushing for the strut 10-12 mm. For the back you'll need the updated LCA's and endlinks and of course a 1LE bar. Best bang for your buck will be 1LE front with a DSE 35mm hollow or JPSS 32mm solid sway bar. That combo is the best sway bar wise. If you haven't bought shocks yet an can afford it try the Bilstein B6s they are the hot ticket, the OEM front seem to bottom out every now and the and make a really bad noise. Check Rock Auto or Summit and see who has the best price. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.