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Silverado60 · 01-13-2021, 11:25 AM

I recently installed a F35 tsp cam and it only made 450 at the wheels. I'm pretty concerned about this. I was hoping for 500
Should I be concerned?

Bo White · 01-13-2021, 12:18 PM

What did it dyno before the cam?
Doubtful you will get 500 with stock heads depending on the dyno.

Silverado60 · 01-13-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

What did it dyno before the cam?
Doubtful you will get 500 with stock heads depending on the dyno.

That's pretty much what the tuner told me 2
It made 430 so I'm only up 20hp which doesn't seem right.
What did your car make with the f35 and bolt ons?

Bo White · 01-13-2021, 01:30 PM

My car is hard to compare. Th400 swap
When I ran the F35 I also had PRC 260 heads and made 479rwhp. Again that was through a th400. I figure it would have made 520 if it had still been a manual.

1JEWLDSSRS · 01-13-2021, 01:48 PM

I was also looking into this cam the other day to try to get to my goal of 500rwhp on stock heads with my LOD X-1 intake. I called TSP yesterday and chatted with them on what I was running now, their stage 3 cam, 231/246@112lsa and what it made at the wheels thru a auto with a 4200 stall, 475rwhp, and he told me that this F35 cam probably would not net me much more than 5-8 more rwhp over what I have now and would not be worth the money and effort to do. He also said what I was making thru an auto with a big stall was akin to the fact that all my performance mods were working well together!! And that there are those rare occasions that happens. Felt good to hear, I did something right. He also said that if I wanted to get to my "goal" the stage 3 I have would get me there, just need a good set of heads to do it. I also told him that we pulled the dyno run out to 7500 and it was still making power. So I guess a set of PRC 260 heads might be next, or I might just leave well enough alone. Butif you are a manual car, I think you should be higher than 450, at least 470..

Silverado60 · 01-13-2021, 01:53 PM

So at the least I'm down 20hp. I'll probably check compression. I used the 7.400 pushrods that cam with the kit with .060 preload it seemed to add up. if the cam was off a tooth the tuner would've picked it up. Andrew is one of the best in the business . He said it runs and drives great.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid

1JEWLDSSRS · 01-13-2021, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverado60

So at the least I'm down 20hp. I'll probably check compression. I used the 7.400 pushrods that cam with the kit and I checked the length and they seemed right with .060 preload. if the cam was off a tooth the tuner would've picked it up. Andrew is one of the best in the business . He said it runs and drives great.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid

I am also running the 7.400 pushrods with my cam. So yea I have seen where some guys have even hit around 480rwhp with this cam on stock heads, and modded intake with a good tune. Maybe he did a "conservative" tune on yours.

Bo White · 01-13-2021, 02:38 PM

If it was off a tooth you'd bend some valves.

Silverado60 · 01-13-2021, 04:27 PM

Well it must not be off a tooth then. Lol
He thinks it needs more air flow and recommended a roto fab cai and porting the heads.
I agree the heads will help but it doesn’t change the fact of being below average for my set up
One thing I am wondering about is I run amzoil zrod 10w30. With 20deg nights it may have been a little thick

07-SRT · 01-13-2021, 07:12 PM

Still running the stock airbox? I would also recommend relocating the washer reservoir, or install Vararam DRX cai that has a new one in the kit and relocates it.
Was it a dynojet or Mustang Dyno? SAE corrected?

Silverado60 · 01-13-2021, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 07-SRT

Still running the stock airbox? I would also recommend relocating the washer reservoir, or install Vararam DRX cai that has a new one in the kit and relocates it.
Was it a dynojet or Mustang Dyno? SAE corrected?

No, I have a BBK intake tube with a cone style amzoil dry filter
It’s a dynojet corrected

zz430camaro · 01-13-2021, 08:09 PM

that cam should be about 470 to 480 rwhp with the normal bolt on's

TheFlyingBananaSS · 01-13-2021, 08:42 PM

What rpm is your limiter set to? Did your hp drop before it? How much advance did he put in?

Ashen L99 · 01-14-2021, 05:54 AM

Numbers arn’t everything, how does the car run? If it moves the f#$k out then I wouldn’t worry about it.... a dyno is just a tool.

01-13-2021, 11:25 AM	#1
Silverado60 Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 238	F-35 cam dyno number help I recently installed a F35 tsp cam and it only made 450 at the wheels. I'm pretty concerned about this. I was hoping for 500 Should I be concerned? __________________ Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill

01-13-2021, 01:48 PM	#5
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,449	I was also looking into this cam the other day to try to get to my goal of 500rwhp on stock heads with my LOD X-1 intake. I called TSP yesterday and chatted with them on what I was running now, their stage 3 cam, 231/246@112lsa and what it made at the wheels thru a auto with a 4200 stall, 475rwhp, and he told me that this F35 cam probably would not net me much more than 5-8 more rwhp over what I have now and would not be worth the money and effort to do. He also said what I was making thru an auto with a big stall was akin to the fact that all my performance mods were working well together!! And that there are those rare occasions that happens. Felt good to hear, I did something right. He also said that if I wanted to get to my "goal" the stage 3 I have would get me there, just need a good set of heads to do it. I also told him that we pulled the dyno run out to 7500 and it was still making power. So I guess a set of PRC 260 heads might be next, or I might just leave well enough alone. Butif you are a manual car, I think you should be higher than 450, at least 470.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

01-13-2021, 01:53 PM	#6
Silverado60 Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 238	So at the least I'm down 20hp. I'll probably check compression. I used the 7.400 pushrods that cam with the kit with .060 preload it seemed to add up. if the cam was off a tooth the tuner would've picked it up. Andrew is one of the best in the business . He said it runs and drives great. Maybe I'm just being paranoid __________________ Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill

01-13-2021, 04:27 PM	#9
Silverado60 Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 238	Well it must not be off a tooth then. Lol He thinks it needs more air flow and recommended a roto fab cai and porting the heads. I agree the heads will help but it doesn’t change the fact of being below average for my set up One thing I am wondering about is I run amzoil zrod 10w30. With 20deg nights it may have been a little thick __________________ Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill

01-13-2021, 07:12 PM	#10
07-SRT Drives: 2015 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 713	Still running the stock airbox? I would also recommend relocating the washer reservoir, or install Vararam DRX cai that has a new one in the kit and relocates it. Was it a dynojet or Mustang Dyno? SAE corrected? __________________ 2015 Camaro 2SS Cam/Heads/FBO 498/447 SAE

01-13-2021, 12:18 PM	#2
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	What did it dyno before the cam? Doubtful you will get 500 with stock heads depending on the dyno.

01-13-2021, 01:30 PM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	My car is hard to compare. Th400 swap When I ran the F35 I also had PRC 260 heads and made 479rwhp. Again that was through a th400. I figure it would have made 520 if it had still been a manual.

01-13-2021, 02:38 PM	#8
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	If it was off a tooth you'd bend some valves.

01-13-2021, 08:09 PM	#12
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	that cam should be about 470 to 480 rwhp with the normal bolt on's __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

01-13-2021, 08:42 PM	#13
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	What rpm is your limiter set to? Did your hp drop before it? How much advance did he put in? __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

01-14-2021, 05:54 AM	#14
Ashen L99 Drives: Ashen grey, 1SS, L99 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 527	Numbers arn’t everything, how does the car run? If it moves the f#$k out then I wouldn’t worry about it.... a dyno is just a tool. __________________ Roto-fab CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB, LOD X1 V3 intake manifold, GMPP LS3 heads, Night Fury cam, TSP 2” long tubes, Corsa ZL-1 catback, Nitrous Outlet 102mm plate kit/150 shot, NGK BR7EF plugs with Taylor plug wires, DSX flex fuel kit, ZL-1 fuel pump and injectors, B&M deep trans pan, Yank 3400 converter, 3.45s with BMR Delrin bushings, mishimoto 169° Thermostat, GM ground effects, T-Rex upper grill, Z/28 Spoiler, Lolly pop Lime brake calipers, ZL1 10 spoke wheels, 12” subwoofer, and custom paint matched interior.