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ǝɔᴉlod · 06-26-2015, 12:57 AM

Today, I see a motorcycle cop approaching me from behind at 90+ miles per hour. I always pull over even if they don't have their lights on if I think they are to pull me over or on their way to an emergency. He pulls me over and tells me that he paced me at excess of 75 in a 65. He continues to write me up for no front plate, exhaust, and tint. I have no problem with the fix it tickets, as I am guilty of those. However, I specifically saw him not pace me because I saw him catching up at a much higher speed than mine and never slow down to my speed because I was already over on the shoulder. Again, me pulling over was because I thought he was going to an emergency at that rate of speed. I know some will flame me for this, and I know this is in the wrong section; but I would like to see if any of you have any advice, knowing many have had run ins with the law. I also know many here are officers, do any of you have any suggestions? (Don't mind my username, I am not part of law enforcement)

Jimmy Hot-Wheels · 06-26-2015, 03:22 AM

In Michigan, police speedometers must be independantly calibrated annually through LIDAR or time/distance method. If your state has this rule, and his motorcycle speedo hasn't been calibrated, you might be able to get the pace thrown out in court.

Red Chief · 06-26-2015, 03:22 AM

I'm a dispatcher(not a cop either) and everything can be traced via cell phone or onboard GPS these days. There should be a computer record somewhere showing everywhere he drove along with timestamps on his route.

The downside to that is if you aren't being honest you won't get out of that ticket.

phillip123hastings · 06-26-2015, 04:30 AM

It's funny, your nickname

You're right about this since you did actually stop because you thought it was an emergency. I guess someone will give the right advice (professional).

NYCamOwner · 06-26-2015, 06:09 AM

1st question. Were you speeding? You never said in your post that you were NOT speeding..

snarky · 06-26-2015, 06:10 AM

lol, california

Angrybird 12 · 06-26-2015, 06:17 AM

Did he have his lights on or not? If he does not then don't pull over, too many people playing fake cop out there plus it makes you look guilty of something even if you are not.

ǝɔᴉlod · 06-26-2015, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCamOwner

1st question. Were you speeding? You never said in your post that you were NOT speeding..

As a natural reaction, I looked at my speedo and I was doing 3 over.

gajagfan · 06-26-2015, 08:23 AM

My guess is you might have been going faster at some point before you noticed him, and that comes from experience, not just trying to be a butt. You also have things that beg "please, please notice me Mr. Police Officer" like loud exhaust, dark tint, and no front plate. I have no professional advice how to deal with this except I treat tickets as my high speed road tax, and when I think of all the less opportune times I could have been caught, I just pay the ticket.

jrhagen · 06-26-2015, 08:23 AM

If you go to court, it will be between you and a CHP officer. I am beating the judge will not pick you.

hazy · 06-26-2015, 08:40 AM

maddoggyusa · 06-26-2015, 09:47 AM

what state are you in?

it's not a question of IF you were speeding. it's a question of DID the PO use a valid method to determine your vehicle speed?

I'd write everything down today on what happened in case it helps you later. Like exactly where you saw him, how far behind was he, where did you pull over. Like get a Google map and mark it down. Go take some photos. If you fight this later, they will be very important.

In terms of his technique used, you probably need to find out what can be used in your state. Personally, I think they just base it on experience and it's not very scientific but they do know when a car is speeding and hopefully error on the side of being conservative. If in fact he's pacing you, I'd think he needs to be a certain distance behind your car for it to be credible.

CCMADONNA · 06-26-2015, 09:52 AM

Dude, once i was driving in Calabasas, a couple of miles from Justin Bieber's house, and a Calabasas cop pulled me over for no front license plate on Muhulland. I told him "thank you, now go make sure The Biebs is behaving" - sometimes....

maddoggyusa · 06-26-2015, 09:53 AM

here's some good stuff that seems to apply to your situation....

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...hapter6-2.html

06-26-2015, 12:57 AM	#1
ǝɔᴉlod Account Suspended Drives: 2014 SS/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: 92677 Posts: 83	Got Pulled Over Today, I see a motorcycle cop approaching me from behind at 90+ miles per hour. I always pull over even if they don't have their lights on if I think they are to pull me over or on their way to an emergency. He pulls me over and tells me that he paced me at excess of 75 in a 65. He continues to write me up for no front plate, exhaust, and tint. I have no problem with the fix it tickets, as I am guilty of those. However, I specifically saw him not pace me because I saw him catching up at a much higher speed than mine and never slow down to my speed because I was already over on the shoulder. Again, me pulling over was because I thought he was going to an emergency at that rate of speed. I know some will flame me for this, and I know this is in the wrong section; but I would like to see if any of you have any advice, knowing many have had run ins with the law. I also know many here are officers, do any of you have any suggestions? (Don't mind my username, I am not part of law enforcement)

06-26-2015, 06:09 AM	#5
NYCamOwner "Katy" Drives: 2014 2LT A6 'Vert Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Western New York Posts: 1,076 View My Garage	1st question. Were you speeding? You never said in your post that you were NOT speeding.. __________________ 2014 Black 2LT Convertible Elite Engineering Catch Can, Vitesse Throttle Controller, CAI Cold Air Intake Possible next mods: Throttle Body Exhaust Upstate C5 Member No, that is not me in the avatar..... I just love hot girls and hot cars.... or hot girls IN hot cars....

06-26-2015, 06:10 AM	#6
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06-26-2015, 06:17 AM	#7
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06-26-2015, 09:52 AM	#13
CCMADONNA Drives: 2014 SW 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,681 View My Garage	Dude, once i was driving in Calabasas, a couple of miles from Justin Bieber's house, and a Calabasas cop pulled me over for no front license plate on Muhulland. I told him "thank you, now go make sure The Biebs is behaving" - sometimes.... __________________ 2014 2SS/RS VERT L99 SUMMIT WHITE AIRAID CAI BORLA ATAK CAT-BACK EXHAUST ELITE ENGINEERING CATCH-CAN RANGE AFM-DELETE MODULE HUPER OPTIK 40 CHROME PEDALS PREMIUM FLOOR MATS PREMIUM CARGO MAT DEDICATED 32GB iPHONE HD[/I][/B][IMG][/IMG]

06-26-2015, 03:22 AM	#2
Jimmy Hot-Wheels Drives: 2013 Hot Wheels Edition 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 198	In Michigan, police speedometers must be independantly calibrated annually through LIDAR or time/distance method. If your state has this rule, and his motorcycle speedo hasn't been calibrated, you might be able to get the pace thrown out in court.

06-26-2015, 03:22 AM	#3
Red Chief Drives: 2020 LT1 Black Join Date: May 2013 Location: MO Posts: 562	I'm a dispatcher(not a cop either) and everything can be traced via cell phone or onboard GPS these days. There should be a computer record somewhere showing everywhere he drove along with timestamps on his route. The downside to that is if you aren't being honest you won't get out of that ticket.

06-26-2015, 04:30 AM	#4
phillip123hastings Drives: A real beast Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 186	It's funny, your nickname You're right about this since you did actually stop because you thought it was an emergency. I guess someone will give the right advice (professional).

06-26-2015, 08:23 AM	#9
gajagfan Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Black - Std Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,622 View My Garage	My guess is you might have been going faster at some point before you noticed him, and that comes from experience, not just trying to be a butt. You also have things that beg "please, please notice me Mr. Police Officer" like loud exhaust, dark tint, and no front plate. I have no professional advice how to deal with this except I treat tickets as my high speed road tax, and when I think of all the less opportune times I could have been caught, I just pay the ticket.

06-26-2015, 08:23 AM	#10
jrhagen Banned Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 2,701	If you go to court, it will be between you and a CHP officer. I am beating the judge will not pick you.

06-26-2015, 08:40 AM	#11
hazy Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: H-Town Posts: 1,037

06-26-2015, 09:47 AM	#12
maddoggyusa Drives: 2013 Camaro Dusk 2SS/6 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,586	what state are you in? it's not a question of IF you were speeding. it's a question of DID the PO use a valid method to determine your vehicle speed? I'd write everything down today on what happened in case it helps you later. Like exactly where you saw him, how far behind was he, where did you pull over. Like get a Google map and mark it down. Go take some photos. If you fight this later, they will be very important. In terms of his technique used, you probably need to find out what can be used in your state. Personally, I think they just base it on experience and it's not very scientific but they do know when a car is speeding and hopefully error on the side of being conservative. If in fact he's pacing you, I'd think he needs to be a certain distance behind your car for it to be credible.

06-26-2015, 09:53 AM	#14
maddoggyusa Drives: 2013 Camaro Dusk 2SS/6 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,586	here's some good stuff that seems to apply to your situation.... http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...hapter6-2.html