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Old 07-21-2009, 09:31 PM   #43
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I found them for around $6 dollars each..TR6IX with the iridium core

http://www.amazon.com/NGK-Iridium-Sp.../dp/B000HDH1IY

Here is another place where they are 7.95 each...TR6IX
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...oducts_id=9288

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They are different plugs. TR6 is the regular plug. TR6IX is the intro level racing plug, the iridium one.

They have spark plugs that cost over $100 EACH and up from there.

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I found them,TR6IX, for under $8 bucks in a bunch of places...you are paying to much my friend
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM   #44
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That is like using Nitrogen in your tires instead of ambient air. Waste of money.
I usually put 78% nitrogen in my tires. I get it for free.
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except the fact that just because this part by itself nets you 10hp, and this other part by itself will net you 15hp, doesnt always mean that both of those parts installed together will net you 25hp.


as far as getting into the 11s... 200shot of nitrous will get you into the 11's.
150 shot should get i done as well
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:02 PM   #46
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I found them for around $6 dollars each..TR6IX with the iridium core

http://www.amazon.com/NGK-Iridium-Sp.../dp/B000HDH1IY

Here is another place where they are 7.95 each...TR6IX
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...oducts_id=9288



I found them,TR6IX, for under $8 bucks in a bunch of places...you are paying to much my friend
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:33 PM   #47
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That is like using Nitrogen in your tires instead of ambient air. Waste of money.
What you call ambient air is 69% nitrogen anyway + 20.5% O2 and the balance is several inert gasses
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They are different plugs. TR6 is the regular plug. TR6IX is the intro level racing plug, the iridium one.

They have spark plugs that cost over $100 EACH and up from there.

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Iridium, I love this one. True iridium is a radioactive element. There may be very, very very trace amount but not enough to make any difference. Iridium is what is used to take industrial radiographs. It produces gamma rays, deadly to people in high exposures.

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I usually put 78% nitrogen in my tires. I get it for free.
Where do you even get 78% nitrogen? Certainly not from the air we breath and not from any welding supply.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:41 PM   #48
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The True Believers crack me up. I'm referring to people who insist that these magical performance gain claims from snake-oil salesmen must have validity because the snake-oil salesmen said so. There's no way you're going to gain anything from fancy spark plugs or gasoline tinted in your favourite colour, but if you beLIEve hard enough that these products go beyond their marketing (i.e. a product people like the sound of) and you throw objectivity out the window, nothing is going to stop you from trying the irresistable product and then to prevent yourself from feeling like the fool you are, you go around telling people how much the product did for you, when in fact the only difference is you bought something. We like to have bragging rights, we'd all like to be the one who discovers some fantastic gains from some area seemingly no one has ever thought of before, we even want to be able to brag about our shopping skills and tell people this hail-mary actually worked after they'd all pooh-poohed it. These types of effects are more pronounced when it comes to application to complex mechanical systems, and we're more apt to suspend disbelief when we encounter outlandish claims when we're surrounded by so much other machinery we don't completely understand, because then the snake-oil salesman can, if he does it right, appear to be your inside man, your friend, not just some schmuck trying to get your money. All he has to do is pitch it in a "you're not gonna believe this, but I swear to you it's true" manner, and place things right upfront on his site where 'ordinary people' are doubting him, and generate this mystique of the True Believer, for whom miraculously, despite doubt and advice of expert others, the product actually delivers for him. The problem is that anyone can become a True Believer, and enjoy that feeling without spending a dime. If I talked a good enough talk and popped open your hood and messed around for ten minutes and then told you with a wide grin that I'd just yanked fifty horsepower out of my ass and teased it into your block, and you in turn thought I was a tuning mystic and placed me on a pedestal above all the other hacks out there, I can almost guarantee you that you'd FEEL that fifty asspower the moment you thought you should, and it would last until I told you the secret of my trick, that all I did under your hood was look important and busy and maybe spit a little.

I think these magic sparkplug people are hilarious, and while I think their trade is unethical, I only say that because they can't keep the True Believers they generate from trying to proselytize to other people who know it's BS. Even the dirtiest shade-tree mechanic fixes some problems, and thus earns his keep more or less fairly. It's when you do actual damage to the reputability of testable data and the reliability of people who actually know what they're talking about that I get mad, because then people come to places like this asking questions that simple, honest answers just won't cure.
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What you call ambient air is 69% nitrogen anyway + 20.5% O2 and the balance is several inert gasses
Iridium, I love this one. True iridium is a radioactive element. There may be very, very very trace amount but not enough to make any difference. Iridium is what is used to take industrial radiographs. It produces gamma rays, deadly to people in high exposures.

Where do you even get 78% nitrogen? Certainly not from the air we breath and not from any welding supply.
you don't buy 78% you just figure it out yourself when your filling up your tires

just remember there i a certain amount of nitrogen that is the best percentage and that is right around 80 or so % because to much is not good because regular air will seep into the tire and no longer be beneficial and to little is just a waste because there isn't enough to make a difference
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Geez who's talking about an 11 sec car? I just said I'm putting these plugs in and should get my self about 2 mpg more than I get now. 2x18...36 extra miles I'll take that cash and come out ahead in no time. good night>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:46 AM   #51
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What you call ambient air is 69% nitrogen
[...]
Where do you even get 78% nitrogen? Certainly not from the air we breath and not from any welding supply.
Check your facts.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...earthfact.html
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Atmospheric composition (by volume, dry air):
Major : 78.08% Nitrogen (N2), 20.95% Oxygen (O2),
Minor (ppm): Argon (Ar) - 9340; Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 380
Neon (Ne) - 18.18; Helium (He) - 5.24; CH4 - 1.7
Krypton (Kr) - 1.14; Hydrogen (H2) - 0.55
Numbers do not add up to exactly 100% due to roundoff and uncertainty
Water is highly variable, typically makes up about 1%
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:01 AM   #52
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The True Believers crack me up. I'm referring to people who insist that these magical performance gain claims from snake-oil salesmen must have validity because the snake-oil salesmen said so. There's no way you're going to gain anything from fancy spark plugs or gasoline tinted in your favourite colour, but if you beLIEve hard enough that these products go beyond their marketing (i.e. a product people like the sound of) and you throw objectivity out the window, nothing is going to stop you from trying the irresistable product and then to prevent yourself from feeling like the fool you are, you go around telling people how much the product did for you, when in fact the only difference is you bought something. We like to have bragging rights, we'd all like to be the one who discovers some fantastic gains from some area seemingly no one has ever thought of before, we even want to be able to brag about our shopping skills and tell people this hail-mary actually worked after they'd all pooh-poohed it. These types of effects are more pronounced when it comes to application to complex mechanical systems, and we're more apt to suspend disbelief when we encounter outlandish claims when we're surrounded by so much other machinery we don't completely understand, because then the snake-oil salesman can, if he does it right, appear to be your inside man, your friend, not just some schmuck trying to get your money. All he has to do is pitch it in a "you're not gonna believe this, but I swear to you it's true" manner, and place things right upfront on his site where 'ordinary people' are doubting him, and generate this mystique of the True Believer, for whom miraculously, despite doubt and advice of expert others, the product actually delivers for him. The problem is that anyone can become a True Believer, and enjoy that feeling without spending a dime. If I talked a good enough talk and popped open your hood and messed around for ten minutes and then told you with a wide grin that I'd just yanked fifty horsepower out of my ass and teased it into your block, and you in turn thought I was a tuning mystic and placed me on a pedestal above all the other hacks out there, I can almost guarantee you that you'd FEEL that fifty asspower the moment you thought you should, and it would last until I told you the secret of my trick, that all I did under your hood was look important and busy and maybe spit a little.

I think these magic sparkplug people are hilarious, and while I think their trade is unethical, I only say that because they can't keep the True Believers they generate from trying to proselytize to other people who know it's BS. Even the dirtiest shade-tree mechanic fixes some problems, and thus earns his keep more or less fairly. It's when you do actual damage to the reputability of testable data and the reliability of people who actually know what they're talking about that I get mad, because then people come to places like this asking questions that simple, honest answers just won't cure.

Thanks for the refreshing insight into the root causes behind all the hilarity and hype in this most comical and entertaining thread. This thread has inspired me to create a bogus Camaro performance product and sell it to the "True Believers" that Restroom has pegged so well.
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I found them for around $6 dollars each..TR6IX with the iridium core

http://www.amazon.com/NGK-Iridium-Sp.../dp/B000HDH1IY

Here is another place where they are 7.95 each...TR6IX
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...oducts_id=9288



I found them,TR6IX, for under $8 bucks in a bunch of places...you are paying to much my friend
My internet search skills are not strong. Thanks for the links.

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Old 07-22-2009, 11:25 AM   #54
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The True Believers crack me up.

I think these magic sparkplug people are hilarious, and while I think their trade is unethical, I only say that because they can't keep the True Believers they generate from trying to proselytize to other people who know it's BS. Even the dirtiest shade-tree mechanic fixes some problems, and thus earns his keep more or less fairly. It's when you do actual damage to the reputability of testable data and the reliability of people who actually know what they're talking about that I get mad, because then people come to places like this asking questions that simple, honest answers just won't cure.
Did you even read what I posted?

How about this bet? I will buy both the ngk plugs and the pulstar plugs. Set the car up on the dyno, do a run, leave it strapped in there, put in the ngk plugs, do a run, leave it strapped in there and put in the pulstar plugs and do a run. 15 minutes between each run so that heat is not affecting the runs.

If the dyno records lower you get to laugh at me. If it records higher, you pay me for the cost of the plugs.

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Thanks for the refreshing insight into the root causes behind all the hilarity and hype in this most comical and entertaining thread. This thread has inspired me to create a bogus Camaro performance product and sell it to the "True Believers" that Restroom has pegged so well.
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What you call ambient air is 69% nitrogen anyway + 20.5% O2 and the balance is several inert gasses
Iridium, I love this one. True iridium is a radioactive element. There may be very, very very trace amount but not enough to make any difference. Iridium is what is used to take industrial radiographs. It produces gamma rays, deadly to people in high exposures.

Where do you even get 78% nitrogen? Certainly not from the air we breath and not from any welding supply.
Gosh I did not know that. I was going to plate all my cutlery with it but I better not now. I better not put to many of them together or there might be a great big glowing gopher hole under my car! And watch out for that glowing watch on your arm, it might make you radioactive!

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Thanks for the refreshing insight into the root causes behind all the hilarity and hype in this most comical and entertaining thread. This thread has inspired me to create a bogus Camaro performance product and sell it to the "True Believers" that Restroom has pegged so well.
Hey....I'm majoring in Quantam Physics, and I'm ALL about people believing and the fact it interferes with physics

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