10-06-2009, 12:16 PM | #43 | |
Account Suspended
Drives: Cargo van. Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Metal Metal Land
Posts: 1,247
|
Quote:
So for the non genius people such as myself, do you guys make kits like springs/sway bars and bushes(?). My car will be a bolt on auto with a 3600 stall pulling triple duty, street/track/drag. But I dont want to buy coil overs, as Im always budgeting to build the cheapest car possible. |
|
10-06-2009, 12:30 PM | #44 |
Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008
Location: OK
Posts: 14,707
|
Yeah buddy! You know any volunteers will be wanting to Pedderize their car afterwards... Can you help with that?
__________________
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin |
10-06-2009, 12:34 PM | #45 |
Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008
Location: OK
Posts: 14,707
|
__________________
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin |
10-06-2009, 12:50 PM | #46 | |
Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 20,174
|
Quote:
The answer is yes we are offering basic to full on drag packages. For drag racing you would be most interested in the differential bushes, sub-frame bushes and rear alignment bolt kit. These will provide the most effecient transfer of power tire to strip by eliminating undesirable twisting in the IRS. The eXtreme alignment bolts will provide adequate range to go to the positive side of camber so when the rear end squats, the tire contact patch is square to the pavement for maximum power transfer. Your solution for the most cost effective drag package is found in these bushes and bolts. Mike will post up links to the part numbers. |
|
10-06-2009, 02:34 PM | #47 | |
Drives: 2010 Camaro X5 Turbo Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 656
|
Quote:
Thanks! |
|
10-06-2009, 02:50 PM | #48 |
susp.ban4life!
Drives: Raptor Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Notinsuspensionthread
Posts: 943
|
I think the 20" wheels and tires are very nice. You can nit pick things up and down the car that could be better. If you take a look at it from the big picture,and the price tag, it is a freakin home run. I know you've indicated it's a good example,"out of the box", but then you say stuff like it has suv wheels.
If you plan to track your car or drive it in,"spirited" excursions, there are things you'll want to change. And money dictates where you start. I buy into the program that you upgrade suspension first when you have decent power to open. Knowing what I know now I would do drop springs and sway bars or if you have the money, coilovers. Drop the center of gravity and increase spring rate. It has an amazing effect on the cars handling. Then you decide what is cost effective for you as well as the criteria of importance/desire. |
10-06-2009, 03:27 PM | #49 |
most bang for your buck
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS CGM/BLK RALLYS Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 653
|
how could you not be happy with that monster...
__________________
2G1FT1EW8A9142133 Delivered to me 09/22/09!
|
10-06-2009, 06:20 PM | #50 | |
Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 20,174
|
Quote:
The track on a stock Camaro along with the staggered tire and wheel package will always produce heavy understeer. It is built into the package and cannot be tuned out without altering the track. You can certainly make it better with suspension tweaks, but the core issue is the track, wheel and tire package. It is important to keep in mind that the OEM Camaro is a great car. I am talking about taking it to the next level. Most people will not run my tire and wheel package for many reasons. That doesn't make our selection wrong. Our wheel and tire package increased the front track by 2" and the rear track by 1/2" for a net front track increase of 1.5". That is a huge benefit and gain. We did not want to increase unsprung weight with the tires and wheels. Moving up to a 305 / 30 / 20 would have increased the weight as it is such a huge increase in tire. Add to that we run 10.5" rims all around and even the lightest wheel would have offered minimal weight reduction. Using a 19" wheel we dropped almost 40 pounds of unsprung weight or roughly 10 pounds per wheel. That is huge from a handling perspective. Now consider the brakes. 10 pounds spinning at 100 MPH takes a significant amount of braking power to stop. Remove 10 pounds and your brakes just improved -- a lot. Next is the rear end effective gear change from a 3.45 to a 377 via the wheel and tire change. The car pulls like a truck and keeps right on pulling through 175MPH. That is as fast as we have taken it and it showed no signs of breathing hard. I could continue to write a book on this, but this should be sufficient to help people understand why I refer to the OEM wheel and tire package as SUV or truck style. I do not say this to be offensive. It is just my opinion and opinions are like XXXholes. Everyone has one. We have several clients with Xa coilovers and 22" rims. The cars look great. I really mean that -- they are bad aXX. Our clients are very pleased with the way their cars perform and handle and I would have to say they are right. Would that be my choice for the best performance no, but best performance is not the ultimate goal for everyone. |
|
10-06-2009, 06:22 PM | #51 | |
Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 20,174
|
Quote:
|
|
10-06-2009, 07:43 PM | #52 | |
Drives: 5th Gen Rental Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 1,901
|
Quote:
Once they are all done, I have a simple outline that explains the differences between them. Now why so many? We have found the Camaro is particularly sensitive to tire sizes, and rear hp gains. Not everyone who wants say a track system will require the same back end support. if you are running 500 rear hp versus 400hp, there are some needed support differences. Plus there are budgets to consider, heights of tires, and a hole plethora of items. So we have positioned ourselves to offer you kits, that best meet your needs, budgets, and give a discount over buying parts individually. Plus, I am here and available if you get stuck on several and need to chat. Here is what the kits will be: 2010 CAMARO PACKAGES Click on Link To Peddes Site PEDDERS PART CODE CAMARO Coil Drop Kit 1 CAMAROKIT1 Camaro Coil Performance Drop Kit 2 CAMAROKIT2 CAMARO Street 1 CAMARO STREET I Camaro Serious Street 1 Packge CAMAROSERIOUSST CAMARO SPORT PACKAGE CAMARO SPORT Camaro Touring DROP kit 1 CAMAROTOURKITI Camaro Touring Perf. drop Kit II CAMAROTOURPERF CAMARO TOURING EXT. Xa kit CAMAROXATOUREXT Camaro Street II drop kit 1 CAMAROSTREETII Camaro Street ii Plus drop kit 1 CAMAROSTR2PLUS Camaro Street II drop Kit II CAMARO STREET II Camaro Street ii Plus drop kit II CAMAROPERSTR2PLS CAMARO EXTR, XA STREET PERF. CAMAROXASTREETEX Street Extreme XA CAMAROXASTREET StreetII Extreme XA PLUS CAMAROSCSTIIPL SERIOUS Track II Perf. Drop Kit II CAMAROSERTRK2PER Track II Perf. Drop Kit II CAMAROTRACKIIPER SERIOUS Track II Drop Kit 1 CAMAROSERIOUSTK2 Track II Drop Kit 1 CAMAROTRACKII CAMARO Extreme XA Track CAMAROXATRACKEXT CAMARO SERIOUS Ext. XA Track CAMAROSEREXTXATK Camaro BASIC DRAG STRIP KIT CAMAROBASICDRAG Camaro Drag bushing Kit LEVEL 2 CAMARODRAGKIT2 Camaro Extreme Drag Package CAMAROEXTDRAG Camaro Extreme XA Drag Package CAMAROEXTXADRAG hOPE THIS HELPS. yOU CAN SEE THESE KITS AT: https://secure.merlinsoftware.com.au...AMARO+PACKAGES THANKS MIKE DMS Last edited by Info@PeddersUSA.com; 10-07-2009 at 11:24 AM. |
|
10-06-2009, 09:20 PM | #53 |
Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: PNW
Posts: 13,313
|
|
10-06-2009, 09:48 PM | #54 | |
Drives: 5th Gen Rental Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 1,901
|
Quote:
After GM announces them!! One already has been announced buyt I still cannot dfiscuss all that I know. Sorry mike dms |
|
10-06-2009, 10:03 PM | #55 |
Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: PNW
Posts: 13,313
|
|
10-06-2009, 10:11 PM | #56 |
Drives: 85½ Porsche 944; 2002 Ford Exp Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Portsmouth, RI
Posts: 153
|
"The Camaro out of the box is a very good vehicle. For some who see the 5th Gen as a possible super car ther is much more that can be pulled out of a ZETA II chassis. With your optional 21" wheels my first mod would be radius rod bush inserts to reduce the kick back in the steering wheel over sharp bumps. TYou have your choice of two inserts that with minimal effort and funding will make a significant difference."
GREAT reply!! Makes perfect sense... I could see you adding two new SKUs to the inventory for quick/easy ordering: one for the first set of bushings described; and one for both sets... Tks again (and sorry for not quoting all of post #37! got to be too hard to do on iPhone)
__________________
Hap Aldrich (Portsmouth, RI)
2SS/RS; custom CAI; ARH long tubes; Hurst short-throw billet shift. Dyno'd at 416rwhp/rwtq |
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Pedders takes delivery of their SS Camaro | Info@PeddersUSA.com | Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack | 41 | 07-31-2009 10:44 AM |
Zeta (Camaro/Commodore/G8) suspension details | Gatecrasher | Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack | 66 | 04-16-2009 01:11 PM |