What are great alts other than ZL1 and Z06

[JK001]

My suggestion is E63 AMG, 2018 and up M5, and if you aren't after "fastest car for the money" definitely look into the LC 500. Can be had for 70k near new, phenomenal interior quality, nice v8, definitely unique styling. It's a must see car in person

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by viurniel

He 'modded' all of them. If GM takes them all back, he has found the real answers.

From OP's posts, he is either the unluckiest man in the Camaro forums or he is the most incompetent person at modifying his cars.

Yes, I went and looked back at his posts. He modded his Grand Sport to 530 whp for sure.

Here is his lastest last fall in 2018

And... I'm back!
2015 ZL1 -> 2017 Grand Sport -> 2017 Z06 -> 2018 ZL1

It's good to be back in a ZL1.

Grand Sport engine blew up.
Z06 never ran properly, from day 1, the car would stall when I stomped on it.

My new ZL1 is perfect

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

Yes, I went and looked back at his posts. He modded his Z07 to 530 whp for sure.

Here is his lastest last fall in 2018

And... I'm back!
2015 ZL1 -> 2017 Grand Sport -> 2017 Z06 -> 2018 ZL1

It's good to be back in a ZL1.

Grand Sport engine blew up.
Z06 never ran properly, from day 1, the car would stall when I stomped on it.

My new ZL1 is perfect

Excuse me?
You're making things up now.
Modded my Z07 to 530whp? They make more than this stock.
The only car I modded was my 2015 ZL1, which yes, I added headers intake and tune. I only did it because the car would not run on 91 octane (CA91) without a tune. After the tune it was great.

I did not mod my 2017 Grand Sport. The engine failed after 2k miles and it was replaced by the dealership. It then happened again and they suspected it was something with the fuel system which was not replaced, but I said F-It.

I then bought my Z06, it had the same problem I'm having now so I never touched the engine because I wanted to keep my warranty (esp after my Grand Sport). Same with my ZL1 1LE.

I was honest and said, I had a TMTB on my ZL1 1LE and I pull the NPP fuse. Thats it.

I am just looking for car suggestions, not conspiracy theories.
However, I suspect there may be a recall that applied to both my 2017 Z06 and 2018 ZL1. I think the dealer didn't know about it at the time of my Z06 so I got blown off. I'm going to try one last time with this recall but I don't have high hopes.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by Gunkk

Yes the car was wrecked/repaired as well as "lightly" modded a few times so some of the trouble may very well have been self-inflicted.

By lightly modded, do you mean I had a TMTB for 2 weeks which I then removed and pulled the battery cable, everything went back to normal for 2 weeks and then the issues started happening again?

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by sv340

I am not sure if you have bad luck or a really shitty dealer. Unless your not being forthcoming (don't take it personally, just there are always two sides to these issues), there is no excuse for a dealer not to find the problem on a car under warranty or not it shouldn't matter (unless an aftermarket component is the source of the issue. I would seek out another dealer, your in Cali so swinging the dead cat in a different direction should yield you another option for service. Leave GM if you like, but I would make them fix the ZLE if for nothing but spite.

Originally Posted by Sooner Cole

Huh? There has to more to this story? Why would any dealer refuse to fix a car that is under warranty. Are they refusing because the car is modded? If not modded, they would likely want to fix it, as GM pays for the work to be done and it adds to their bottom line. I'm confused. Fill in the blanks for me.

My latest theory is that there was a recall about the O2 sensor wiring that may apply to both my 2017 Z06 and 2018 ZL1. The recall came out after I sold my Z06, so that may be why they blew me off.

I'm going to try again with the ZL1.

Recall #17457


EDIT: I created a thread about my GM problems for those that want more info: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...php?p=10513471

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by IneedAZ

Guess it depends if you are wanting another Coupe or a Sedan this time. I love my 17 Zl1 and i picked up a 18 Daytona 392 as my DD. Had i done more research prior to getting the Charger, i would have gotten the Audi RS3 instead. It is a bad little car and i have seen some running 10's without much done. They are Zl1/Hellcat price territory though. Probably hold the resale better though.

I'd prefer a coupe, but I do like the RS3, though its a bit on the ordinary side IMO.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by newmoon

With the level of performance you are accustomed too the only option I see for you would be wait for the new GT500 Carbon Fiber Track Package.

Yeah, but I don't think I'm going to get one for a price I'd be willing to pay for a GT500. If I could get one for 80k I'd do it, but I don't think that's going to happen.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Excuse me?
You're making things up now.
Modded my Z07 to 530whp? They make more than this stock.
The only car I modded was my 2015 ZL1, which yes, I added headers intake and tune. I only did it because the car would not run on 91 octane (CA91) without a tune. After the tune it was great.

I did not mod my 2017 Grand Sport. The engine failed after 2k miles and it was replaced by the dealership. It then happened again and they suspected it was something with the fuel system which was not replaced, but I said F-It.

I then bought my Z06, it had the same problem I'm having now so I never touched the engine because I wanted to keep my warranty (esp after my Grand Sport). Same with my ZL1 1LE.

I was honest and said, I had a TMTB on my ZL1 1LE and I pull the NPP fuse. Thats it.

I am just looking for car suggestions, not conspiracy theories.
However, I suspect there may be a recall that applied to both my 2017 Z06 and 2018 ZL1. I think the dealer didn't know about it at the time of my Z06 so I got blown off. I'm going to try one last time with this recall but I don't have high hopes.

I mistyped and then did an edit but it must not have taken. It was your GS that you modded to 530whp.

Your post was to say that you had such bad luck, it seems you modded your cars and blew up your motors. It was not GM's fault.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacerX

The Viper was one my primary recommendations for exactly what you outlined. The OP didn't say if he preferred a manual, but that's a big difference in a Viper vs. something like a GT-R. If it's just about going fast, the GT-R does that really well, if the *experience* is just as important, a car like a Viper has that in excess.

This is coming from someone who likes and owned a number of Japanese performance cars (Supra, S2K, (2) RX7s, the 3rd Gen was a beast on track, "only" ~450HP but 2900 lbs ...)




Since I'm shopping I have friends recommending cars (I'm specifically looking at another convertible), and a Merc of various flavors has come up, but I suspect I'm like the OP, in that I'm not a "Mercedes owner" - I think that's one of those brands where you are or aren't, the objective metrics don't matter much, there's sort of a mental brand alignment.

I do prefer manual, but I am at that point where I'm ready to switch to auto if its good.

You're right, I'm not really a Mercedes kind of guy. The only one I like is the AMG GT-R but its closer to 200k.
The old AMG C63 Black Edition back in 2012 was pretty nice.

[angryBits]

Viper is very appealing but if I'm honest with myself it's going to be a difficult daily driver.

I daily drive the ZL1 1LE now and it's approaching the max discomfort I'm willing to live with daily -- livable but extreme.

The ZL1 1LE or another Z06 is really my perfect fit.
I'd say the next closest at opposite ends of my spectrum are GT350R or HC Redeye.

I appreciate all the input and conspiracy theories.
I am going to try this recall #17457 and if that fixes it then I owe everyone an apology and will keep the car. If it doesn't then I will probably try to tune this ZL1 1LE and risk my warranty.

I hate the problems I've been having but as most have said, there really isn't anything better in the domain I'm looking for.

GT350R: not enough torque, but i've never driven one so I can't say for sure. Otherwise I think it's a pretty good fit. If the lack of torque wasn't awful and I could get one for MSRP this would be it.

HC Redeye: Too heavy and not a great handling car, but I do like the purist muscle car *thing*. I could do that for awhile.

[nicktechla]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Viper is very appealing but if I'm honest with myself it's going to be a difficult daily driver.

I daily drive the ZL1 1LE now and it's approaching the max discomfort I'm willing to live with daily -- livable but extreme.

The ZL1 1LE or another Z06 is really my perfect fit.
I'd say the next closest at opposite ends of my spectrum are GT350R or HC Redeye.

I appreciate all the input and conspiracy theories.
I am going to try this recall #17457 and if that fixes it then I owe everyone an apology and will keep the car. If it doesn't then I will probably try to tune this ZL1 1LE and risk my warranty.

I hate the problems I've been having but as most have said, there really isn't anything better in the domain I'm looking for.

GT350R: not enough torque, but i've never driven one so I can't say for sure. Otherwise I think it's a pretty good fit. If the lack of torque wasn't awful and I could get one for MSRP this would be it.

HC Redeye: Too heavy and not a great handling car, but I do like the purist muscle car *thing*. I could do that for awhile.

you just need to make the dealer keep the car until its right. If they can't fix it, switch dealers. It's a new car, they should be able to make it right.

[FH212]

Originally Posted by JonDaddy82

I agree. No one has that much bad luck.


Having said that, have you looked in a Lexus RC F, or the new RC F Track model? Great V8, nice car, and superb reliability.

This is my suggestion also. Or take a look at the Lexus LC500. Bad ass looks in person, and a 471 HP V8, 10 speed auto. Under $100k.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Viper is very appealing but if I'm honest with myself it's going to be a difficult daily driver.

I daily drive the ZL1 1LE now and it's approaching the max discomfort I'm willing to live with daily -- livable but extreme.

The ZL1 1LE or another Z06 is really my perfect fit.
I'd say the next closest at opposite ends of my spectrum are GT350R or HC Redeye.

I appreciate all the input and conspiracy theories.
I am going to try this recall #17457 and if that fixes it then I owe everyone an apology and will keep the car. If it doesn't then I will probably try to tune this ZL1 1LE and risk my warranty.

I hate the problems I've been having but as most have said, there really isn't anything better in the domain I'm looking for.

GT350R: not enough torque, but i've never driven one so I can't say for sure. Otherwise I think it's a pretty good fit. If the lack of torque wasn't awful and I could get one for MSRP this would be it.

HC Redeye: Too heavy and not a great handling car, but I do like the purist muscle car *thing*. I could do that for awhile.

Don't get the GT350, I had one. It is ok, with no torque until 4k rpm. It slugs on takeoff. It is only fun above 4k rpm, and it will burn 1qt of oil every 500 miles.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by FH212

This is my suggestion also. Or take a look at the Lexus LC500. Bad ass looks in person, and a 471 HP V8, 10 speed auto. Under $100k.

The LC 500 is a piglet, 4200 to 4400+ lbs. The RC F is the way to go, , 3,958lbs.