[Captslow]

Been looking into getting a tune. The obvious companies like trifecta and vermont tuning come to mind. Just wanted to hear some of your experiences with these companies and if one is better than the other. Tried to upload a Pic of my car just to see if I'm using this forum right sorry I'm a noob.

Thanks
CaptSlow

[Arka]

Trifecta: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=482587

[Evil-Bee-NH]

My advice and many will surely agree is go find a Tuning shop in your area a good dyno tune will net you better results and more reliability then a canned tune. HPtuners can be used on our cars I know there's a few out there i'll be getting tuned in april and hopefully making an in-depth video of the process if my tuner approves.

[ChicagoTommy]

I answered your question about VT in the other thread. They are the Playskool of tuning. Trifecta's customer service leaves much to be desired. Buy HP Tuners, find a REPUTABLE tuner. You will outlay slightly more cash, but you will make MORE power.

[Adp2017]

A little off topic... did you powder coat your rims? they look great! I was thinking about doing the same

[subzero05]

ive been looking myself. Mostly for like a piggy back unit or something rather than a flash type tune. I've heard flowmaster is working on something in their delta boost line, but nothing officially out yet

[ChicagoTommy]

Originally Posted by subzero05

ive been looking myself. Mostly for like a piggy back unit or something rather than a flash type tune. I've heard flowmaster is working on something in their delta boost line, but nothing officially out yet

Yes, Flowmaster is the name I think of when it comes to engine management... Think about that for a minute. I've looked at their product, and it's nothing more than a signal changer, not a tuner of any sort.

[DarkFangz1100]

No, not yet. For now I'm waiting on the Vitesse Throttle Controller. Basically it's a tune without a tune.

[rorymick]

If you can get a mechanical mod or two done first. The tune will compliment the mods nicely.

Biggest gain for simple mods would be a Catless downpipe and a tune. I don't think an intake will add much for power. Downpipe and tune is a good route.

Catless downpipe. Muffler delete and midpipe upgrade and a tune is the path I'm headed down. I have a Catless downpipe already.

Not sure who I'll pick for a tune yet but it will be someone who has a Catless downpipe tune and can load a 94 and 91 octane tune into one device.

I'm hoping I'll have 325hp/ 350tq of flywheel power. 50 hp 50 torque gain isn't unreasonable with a tune and a mod or two.

[subzero05]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTommy

Yes, Flowmaster is the name I think of when it comes to engine management... Think about that for a minute. I've looked at their product, and it's nothing more than a signal changer, not a tuner of any sort.

is that because you believe that a "tuner" must be the "flash" type to be considered an actual "tuner"? that couldn't be farther from the truth. I'm sure its more than just a signal changer. There are plenty of "piggyback" style boxes out there on the European side of the market and plenty of tuners out there that specialize in this type of tuning and are quite successful. I would suspect much of that "tuning" mentality is migrating over to the domestic market with the turbo offerings now in more and more cars. if its not for you then so be it, but im sure there are some out there who would have interest in products like these

[ChicagoTommy]

Originally Posted by subzero05

is that because you believe that a "tuner" must be the "flash" type to be considered an actual "tuner"? that couldn't be farther from the truth. I'm sure its more than just a signal changer. There are plenty of "piggyback" style boxes out there on the European side of the market and plenty of tuners out there that specialize in this type of tuning and are quite successful. I would suspect much of that "tuning" mentality is migrating over to the domestic market with the turbo offerings now in more and more cars. if its not for you then so be it, but im sure there are some out there who would have interest in products like these

See that's where you're wrong. I have significant depth in Euro/JDM tuning, piggybacks, and altogether different engine management systems. I ran a JB4 on my 08 335i. I've looked at Flowmaster's product for the EBM platform. It has nowhere near the capabilities of a JB4. It's basically doing what the LS1 MAF Translator did nearly 20 years ago. I don't find that to be any sort of advanced engineering.

As I had said before, when I think tuning/piggyback, the name Flowmaster doesn't stick out to me as an innovation leader in that field. Now if we were discussing something from a industry leader like Cobb/Vishnu/JB etc., I could understand some excitement. All Flowmaster has is a reputation for making obnoxiously loud, poor flowing exhausts. Take a search around LS1tech.com and see how many people LOST horsepower going to their catback vs. STOCK!

[Corner carver]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTommy

See that's where you're wrong. I have significant depth in Euro/JDM tuning, piggybacks, and altogether different engine management systems. I ran a JB4 on my 08 335i. I've looked at Flowmaster's product for the EBM platform. It has nowhere near the capabilities of a JB4. It's basically doing what the LS1 MAF Translator did nearly 20 years ago. I don't find that to be any sort of advanced engineering.

As I had said before, when I think tuning/piggyback, the name Flowmaster doesn't stick out to me as an innovation leader in that field. Now if we were discussing something from a industry leader like Cobb/Vishnu/JB etc., I could understand some excitement. All Flowmaster has is a reputation for making obnoxiously loud, poor flowing exhausts. Take a search around LS1tech.com and see how many people LOST horsepower going to their catback vs. STOCK!

Would love if Cobb developed a tuner for us LTG guys; have not heard of any planned for us though... Maybe the market is on the small side for them to come play with us?

[ChicagoTommy]

Originally Posted by Corner carver

Would love if Cobb developed a tuner for us LTG guys; have not heard of any planned for us though... Maybe the market is on the small side for them to come play with us?

Or they may not understand that there is a market. Even though the Camaro/ATS/CTS/Regal are selling slow, they still sell a TON of Malibu's! Most people don't realize the LTG is the engine used in a lot of GM's cars currently. You're a very vocal guy, reach out to them and see what they have to say! Worst they can say is no.

[subzero05]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTommy

See that's where you're wrong. I have significant depth in Euro/JDM tuning, piggybacks, and altogether different engine management systems. I ran a JB4 on my 08 335i. I've looked at Flowmaster's product for the EBM platform. It has nowhere near the capabilities of a JB4. It's basically doing what the LS1 MAF Translator did nearly 20 years ago. I don't find that to be any sort of advanced engineering.

As I had said before, when I think tuning/piggyback, the name Flowmaster doesn't stick out to me as an innovation leader in that field. Now if we were discussing something from a industry leader like Cobb/Vishnu/JB etc., I could understand some excitement. All Flowmaster has is a reputation for making obnoxiously loud, poor flowing exhausts. Take a search around LS1tech.com and see how many people LOST horsepower going to their catback vs. STOCK!

ah yes the burger boxes for the BMW. I know all too well about their stuff. they make power I'll give them that, but at the expense of constant problem cars out there, going behind the DME and bypassing the CEL every 20 seconds so it doesn't trigger and on and on. Not to mention they had a huge fine by the cal air resources board for these things.

perhaps you forget that Flowmaster is also part of the group that Dinan resides in and I put my money they are the ones behind this. So you want a reputable name that works directly with BMW, then there ya go. it is what it is, you are entitled to your opinion and others are as well. It maybe for some and others not, BUT to bash them with no true and founded evidence to support the claim seems shortsighted. They have been at the forefront of our performance industry for a long time, far longer than most of the companies out there, give them a little respect