Electric Vehicles

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by 90503

Yes, the list of wasteful spending and subsidies by the govt is quite extensive, as you point out. Thank you.

Nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program.Hopefully most, if not all of it, ends soon.

The waste and expense related to EVs is relevant in this thread as is the EV news of upcoming EV tech, etc.

Agree, I'd say ethanol is out of scope for an EV thread, but EV policy, driven by government de facto (I qualified it, Jim!) mandates, and subsidies are well within bounds, especially as consumer demand is tapping out and significant policy changes on the horizon will drastically impact OEMs' EV sales and planning.

FWIW, I think ethanol subsidies have declined to the point where the pump price is not cost effective with reduced mileage for most people. It's down to a niche market for performance enthusiasts, and not much more. If anything, it's a good use case for what happens when you let market forces determine demand, not forcing change down consumers throats.

If you want a sunshine and rainbows thread about a coming EV "revolution" and new models, you're welcome to spin one up.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Capricio

Agree, I'd say ethanol is out of scope for an EV thread, but EV policy, driven by government de facto (I qualified it, Jim!) mandates, and subsidies are well within bounds, especially as consumer demand is tapping out and significant policy changes on the horizon will drastically impact OEMs' EV sales and planning.

FWIW, I think ethanol subsidies have declined to the point where the pump price is not cost effective with reduced mileage for most people. It's down to a niche market for performance enthusiasts, and not much more. If anything, it's a good use case for what happens when you let market forces determine demand, not forcing change down consumers throats.

If you want a sunshine and rainbows thread about a coming EV "revolution" and new models, you're welcome to spin one up.

You just earned yourself a tall cold brew next time I’m in Arizona!

[Gen6cyl]

The automobile companies going along with the government forcing us into ev's and sucking up tax money, hope they get bit in the ass.