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Nightmare2012 · 08-30-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

I would love to get all the right tools to build my own short block. I think that would be awesome. Next time I def will. If the car sat for 2 years I'd be perfectly find with that.

I agree I personally don't have the tools machine shop etc. Which is why I sent out to get my block done and do the rest of the work that don't require special tools myself. With some help of dark cry and the forum gurus of course.

K32 Camaro · 08-30-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

5k? Damn

Yessir. That's aiming at 1k rwhp ish. I don't see a reason to forge with any power level below that.. lol. Also including shop labor (which is most of it.) Seems that's what he was asking.

Nightmare2012 · 08-30-2013, 10:38 PM

Oh yeaa true story!!!

litle88 · 08-30-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

The MSRP on my rods is over $1500!

Really depends on how crazy you want to get. It adds up very quickly.

Haha that's why I said pick your poison.

ssmike · 08-31-2013, 08:41 AM

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Oh yeaa true story!!!

TBone · 09-01-2013, 11:52 AM

Quick post then off to a gig.

This was in a FRC, black and stock looking.

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I paced him for a while and thought about trying to take the photo but trying to drive a 15 passenger van with a 20 foot trailer and trying that was out of the question. Luckily when I stopped for gas so did he so I got the pic.

T.

Supercharged SS · 09-01-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Haha that's why I said pick your poison.

So what's the difference between $1500 rods and $700 rods? The eagle ones I was using seemed fine. What am I getting for double the price?

thahemp · 09-01-2013, 01:00 PM

About $800 it sounds like! If you didn't have a problem before i'm not sure how the money is justified.

Supercharged SS · 09-01-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

About $800 it sounds like! If you didn't have a problem before i'm not sure how the money is justified.

Without getting into all the details I was told the rods I had, which looked brand new, were only good to 800 HP. I was told by eagle directly thru were rated to 1300 and the guy I'm selling them to had 2 emails from eagle verifying the same thing.

At this point I could care less. I just want this finished up.

litle88 · 09-01-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

So what's the difference between $1500 rods and $700 rods? The eagle ones I was using seemed fine. What am I getting for double the price?

What I was saying was he can get 700 eagle rods or some expensive Callie's or carillo rods.

I don't know what rods you have now or the differences between them or what rod bolts are used on either one.

BlaqWhole · 09-01-2013, 01:28 PM

It's wierd, forged H-Beam rods used to be good to 1,000 hp. Then they started rating them to 700 hp. Now they're up to 800 hp?! Lol. And what about billet rods? Weren't thos supposed to be all but unbreakable. I think those professional race engines used them and they never broke. They weren't $1500. I just don't see how rods can cost that much.

BlaqWhole · 09-01-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Without getting into all the details I was told the rods I had, which looked brand new, were only good to 800 HP. I was told by eagle directly thru were rated to 1300 and the guy I'm selling them to had 2 emails from eagle verifying the same thing.

At this point I could care less. I just want this finished up.

Our stock rods can handle about 800 hp...look at all the guys pushing 600, 650, and even 700 hp on a stock bottom end.

Supercharged SS · 09-01-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

What I was saying was he can get 700 eagle rods or some expensive Callie's or carillo rods.

I don't know what rods you have now or the differences between them or what rod bolts are used on either one.

The old motor had these Eagles:http://www.eaglerod.com/index.php?op...d=33&Itemid=40

6.125 CRS6125O3D2000 620g H-Beam 2.1000 .927 1100 704.00

The new motor has the link that I posted a few spots back.

I don't mind spending the $$$$, I'm just trying to learn why a rod can be double the price. What do you get for the extra cost?

tys2010camaro · 09-01-2013, 01:53 PM

Guys,

I am really on the fence after reading about oil performance and shocked to see the final results. In short I have always swore by using Mobil 1 in all my cars and especialy in my Camaro with a greately modded motor. I work for a major auto aftermarket retailer and we sell pretty much any oil available. I received results for racing oils and the recomendations for my car is Brad Penn, Joe Gibbs, Valvoline VR1, Amsoil Racing and Royal Purple Racing Oil. They specificaly indicate DO NOT USE MOBILE 1 as this oil has has important addidtives removed in order to avoid damage to catalytic converters. What are you guys using in your modded motors? Does using these oils plug up the converters? I am running BBK Long tube with Cats. After market cats are a hell of a lot cheaper then repairing a motor due to inadequate oil damage to a motor. They also indicate any racing motor running over 200f MUST USE 20-50

I would appreciate your input!!!! Thanks!!!

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TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	Quick post then off to a gig. This was in a FRC, black and stock looking. I paced him for a while and thought about trying to take the photo but trying to drive a 15 passenger van with a 20 foot trailer and trying that was out of the question. Luckily when I stopped for gas so did he so I got the pic. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

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BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	It's wierd, forged H-Beam rods used to be good to 1,000 hp. Then they started rating them to 700 hp. Now they're up to 800 hp?! Lol. And what about billet rods? Weren't thos supposed to be all but unbreakable. I think those professional race engines used them and they never broke. They weren't $1500. I just don't see how rods can cost that much.

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tys2010camaro Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 352	Guys, I am really on the fence after reading about oil performance and shocked to see the final results. In short I have always swore by using Mobil 1 in all my cars and especialy in my Camaro with a greately modded motor. I work for a major auto aftermarket retailer and we sell pretty much any oil available. I received results for racing oils and the recomendations for my car is Brad Penn, Joe Gibbs, Valvoline VR1, Amsoil Racing and Royal Purple Racing Oil. They specificaly indicate DO NOT USE MOBILE 1 as this oil has has important addidtives removed in order to avoid damage to catalytic converters. What are you guys using in your modded motors? Does using these oils plug up the converters? I am running BBK Long tube with Cats. After market cats are a hell of a lot cheaper then repairing a motor due to inadequate oil damage to a motor. They also indicate any racing motor running over 200f MUST USE 20-50 I would appreciate your input!!!! Thanks!!!