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HumanWiki · 02-02-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Grabber

I'll send you a PM beforehand.

He is still having some tune issues from the last time we spoke. Should have it all done by Spring.

No track times yet, but, I told him that car should run deep 11's babying it and deep 10's driving it to its full potential @ 134-137.

Nice..

eolson · 02-03-2012, 04:40 PM

You know, the funny thing is, over in the Mustang Forums, their is no on going threads about the ZR1 at all, I even tried to keep them alive, but it wasn't possible.

I think it's pretty clear that Mustang owners respect the ZL1, but have no intention of ever buying one, or even have them on their radar. Strange.... Erik

ffrcobra_65 · 02-03-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eolson

You know, the funny thing is, over in the Mustang Forums, their is no on going threads about the ZR1 at all, I even tried to keep them alive, but it wasn't possible.

I think it's pretty clear that Mustang owners respect the ZL1, but have no intention of ever buying one, or even have them on their radar. Strange.... Erik

I will be getting one. But yeah, most GT500 owners have already dismissed it.

bada · 02-03-2012, 05:22 PM

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-gt500-feature

ffrcobra_65 · 02-03-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bada

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-gt500-feature

I don't believe the 202mph limit, 3.7sec 0-60, and mid 11s 1/4 unless proven in a simulator.

toilets · 02-03-2012, 06:48 PM

Who has a subscription? Did anyone notice the back of the cover says the gt500 is 650 hp and 250mph in big bold lettering? Lol, it has it correct everywhere else but that's a pretty big typo... A good write up on the 500 but from the sounds of it, it doesn't look good for us.

OldJedi · 02-03-2012, 08:35 PM

I read the article while I was in Barnes & Noble. The HR crew was there while Ford was doing some of their engine certification. Dyno sheets show 650HP at 6250RPM and 670HP at the redline of 7000RPM. Over 500 Lb. of torque was available at 2000RPM. It certainly sounds like a very strong motor. The question is can the GT500 get it to the ground and use it effectively without the tires going up in smoke?

Sax1031 · 02-03-2012, 09:42 PM

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...8/viewall.html

in depth article on the 5.8 in the GT500.

Interesting that the code name for the new 5.8 and 2013 GT500 was Trinity. Was also the code name for the United States first Nuclear Test.

toilets · 02-03-2012, 10:10 PM

I was talking about how they say it can go 250 mph!

GM4lyfe · 02-03-2012, 10:27 PM

I'm not seeing the 250mph. I have the mag in front of me.

Ahh found it. In the table of contents, just had to flip another page.

ParisTNDude · 02-03-2012, 10:46 PM

Road and Track tested a 2011 Super Snake with all of the best SVT suspension parts on a perfect weather day and lots of traction chemicals on the track and it ran a best of 11.7 at over 120. The question then is if a base GT500 runs 12.2-12.4 with 550HP and the GT500 Super Snake runs 11.7 with 750HP, what will the 650HP GT500 run? I can't see it running faster than the Super Snake and since it's in the middle between the base and the Super snake on HP, it looks to me like about a 12 second car or just under depending on traction. I think the ZL1 will give the 2013 GT500 a good run for the money and I think the GT500 can't come close on a road course. Further, it's ugly!

toilets · 02-03-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GM4lyfe

I'm not seeing the 250mph. I have the mag in front of me.

Ahh found it. In the table of contents, just had to flip another page.

Lol sorry, just thought it was funny

mr_desmo · 02-03-2012, 10:49 PM

its 200mph on the cover...the 2013 gt500 haver the same primary gears (ist is 2.66) as the zl1 but it has a 3.31 final drive while the zl1 make do with a more aggressive first gear (3.73). And the ZL1 can only rev to 6200rpm while the gt500 will rev at 7000rpm (it will 62mph in first like the z06)
The make do with the same tires but a bit slimmer on the gt500.

We will see who will win but as is i feel the zl1 competition is the 2012 gt500 and thats the comparison im wayting to see.
Id love a ls9 zl1....that would be the monster....but they wouldnt put a 24k engine in a 55k car would they?

GM4lyfe · 02-03-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by toilets

Lol sorry, just thought it was funny

Not your fault. Reading comprehension sux at 4am. I went from front cover straight to the article haha. It is funny, now it can take on a Veyron, hahaha.

02-03-2012, 04:40 PM	#156
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	You know, the funny thing is, over in the Mustang Forums, their is no on going threads about the ZR1 at all, I even tried to keep them alive, but it wasn't possible. I think it's pretty clear that Mustang owners respect the ZL1, but have no intention of ever buying one, or even have them on their radar. Strange.... Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

02-03-2012, 06:48 PM	#160
toilets Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southeast, Posts: 842	Hot rod magazine Who has a subscription? Did anyone notice the back of the cover says the gt500 is 650 hp and 250mph in big bold lettering? Lol, it has it correct everywhere else but that's a pretty big typo... A good write up on the 500 but from the sounds of it, it doesn't look good for us.

02-03-2012, 08:35 PM	#161
OldJedi Use the Force Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51, 2018 Porsche GTS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davie, Fl. Posts: 3,862	I read the article while I was in Barnes & Noble. The HR crew was there while Ford was doing some of their engine certification. Dyno sheets show 650HP at 6250RPM and 670HP at the redline of 7000RPM. Over 500 Lb. of torque was available at 2000RPM. It certainly sounds like a very strong motor. The question is can the GT500 get it to the ground and use it effectively without the tires going up in smoke? __________________ Walk softly, carry a light saber and drive a ZL1!

02-03-2012, 10:27 PM	#164
GM4lyfe A GM nut-swinger! Drives: A Car Join Date: May 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 262	I'm not seeing the 250mph. I have the mag in front of me. Ahh found it. In the table of contents, just had to flip another page. __________________ 2004 GTO Quicksilver 2009 G8 Liquid Red 2005 CTS-V Black Raven Last edited by GM4lyfe; 02-03-2012 at 10:44 PM.

02-03-2012, 10:46 PM	#165
ParisTNDude Owning SSes for 50 Years Drives: Sharkskin Grey LT1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Paris, TN Posts: 3,139 View My Garage	Road and Track tested a 2011 Super Snake with all of the best SVT suspension parts on a perfect weather day and lots of traction chemicals on the track and it ran a best of 11.7 at over 120. The question then is if a base GT500 runs 12.2-12.4 with 550HP and the GT500 Super Snake runs 11.7 with 750HP, what will the 650HP GT500 run? I can't see it running faster than the Super Snake and since it's in the middle between the base and the Super snake on HP, it looks to me like about a 12 second car or just under depending on traction. I think the ZL1 will give the 2013 GT500 a good run for the money and I think the GT500 can't come close on a road course. Further, it's ugly! __________________ The new ride: 2023 Camaro, LT1, Sharkskin Grey Previous Performance Cars: 1966 Chevelle SS 4M, 2010 Corvette 6M 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Auto 2012 1SS 6M 1982 Corvette Auto 2010 1SS 6A 1984 Corvette Auto 2016 2SS 8A 1999 Camaro Auto 2017 HBM 1SS 1le 2002 C5 Corvette 6M 2018 2SS 2006 Corvette Auto 2023 Camaro LT1

02-03-2012, 05:22 PM	#158
bada Drives: 1932 pro street truck ZO6 LS7 power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Greenbrier tenn & pennington gap VA. Posts: 118	http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-gt500-feature

02-03-2012, 09:42 PM	#162
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...8/viewall.html in depth article on the 5.8 in the GT500. Interesting that the code name for the new 5.8 and 2013 GT500 was Trinity. Was also the code name for the United States first Nuclear Test.

02-03-2012, 10:10 PM	#163
toilets Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southeast, Posts: 842	I was talking about how they say it can go 250 mph!

02-03-2012, 10:49 PM	#167
mr_desmo Banned Drives: beated up old mini austin Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: north pole Posts: 440	its 200mph on the cover...the 2013 gt500 haver the same primary gears (ist is 2.66) as the zl1 but it has a 3.31 final drive while the zl1 make do with a more aggressive first gear (3.73). And the ZL1 can only rev to 6200rpm while the gt500 will rev at 7000rpm (it will 62mph in first like the z06) The make do with the same tires but a bit slimmer on the gt500. We will see who will win but as is i feel the zl1 competition is the 2012 gt500 and thats the comparison im wayting to see. Id love a ls9 zl1....that would be the monster....but they wouldnt put a 24k engine in a 55k car would they?

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