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JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-10-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lgKido

So, I'm be very interested in knowing what happened to make your car to make stall........

The timing chain failed.

John B.

lgKido · 10-11-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

The timing chain failed.

John B.

I missed OP's post on the timing chain, so thank you.

Maxspeed · 10-11-2012, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lgKido

I missed OP's post on the timing chain, so thank you.

Ya, I didn't specify the cause until last night. When the engine quit I still had plenty of inertia to roll probably a mile and make a few turns off the main road.

I think the pistons and push rods are fine.

snizzle · 10-11-2012, 07:23 AM

That sucks. Sounds like considerable damage.

Sorry to hear that Max. She'll be back better than ever though. Use this an an opportunity to upgrade something else

Maxspeed · 10-11-2012, 07:40 AM

Thanks Snizzle. I'm just putting her back to before. I really enjoyed the car the way it was. I only joyride around town with it rarely taking it on the hgihway so I have no need for more HP

snizzle · 10-11-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxspeed

so I have no need for more HP

How many of us have said that before?

Macky · 10-11-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

How many of us have said that before?

f5journal · 10-11-2012, 09:46 AM

So out of curiosity, just what would cause this timing chain to fail under the subject conditions. Is it pulling harder turning the aftermarket cam and or springs ect??

Or, would it have failed as stock

Ebbsnflows · 10-11-2012, 10:20 AM

I'll echo what the others have said Max...and say that I'm sorry to hear that this happened. I had hoped that it would be an easy/simple fix. Unfortunately anyone that's been in the horsepower game for any length of time can tell these same types of stories over and over. Breakage and failure is generally considered 'the cost of doing business' for most of us. I broke a header bolt off in my 2000 SS with 1700 miles on it (had to pull head an have it tapped and heli-coiled), I stripped the HEAD-BOLT threads out out of the block with 7k miles on the car (doing my 3rd head swap on it), I've broken valve springs and bent valves, sheered off all 5 wheel studs, dropping me onto 3 wheels...I've I've grenaded driveshafts, rear ends...etc. You get picture. But those lessons haven't been for nothing. They taught me to work on my own cars and when given the opportunity, build it better/stronger than before.

Good luck with your repairs...don't let it get you down. A LOT OF US have been where you are. Just don't skimp on the rebuild...pay now or pay more later.

Chevrolet Customer Svc · 10-11-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxspeed

I took it out today for a quick highway ride. When I got off the highway near my house and stopped at a light I noticed the engine was ticking when at idle and the exhaust sounded different. I proceeded home driving gentle when the engine shut itself down and would not start. Coasted to a parking lot and called AAA. Now she sits in my driveway.

I apologize for your frustrations! Have you had a chance to get a proper diagnosis at a dealership? Please let us know!

Brandon
Chevrolet Customer Service

Maxspeed · 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM

Hi Brandon
No I haven't. I called Chevy CS yesterday case 71-1115680730 and was told that a rep would need to diagnose that the timing chain failed with out help from the mods before I would be covered. The codes indicated that it was a cam sensor so I flat bedded it a few hundred miles to the shop that did the mods where they informed me that the chain failed bending 9 valves, broke the timing gears, the oil pump was damaged, sheared the bolts of the upper tming gear allowing the cam to shift destroying the lifters. Not bad for a car with 4,200 miles on it mostly driven the speed limit up and down Main Steet. I did a lot of research after the fact and there have been issues with earlier model timing chains and the LS3 chain tensioner failing.

snizzle · 10-12-2012, 04:35 PM

Update Max? Got her back yet?

Maxspeed · 10-12-2012, 05:21 PM

She was tested today I will get it next week. Hopefully I will never be struck by lightning again!

TRC-SS · 10-12-2012, 06:21 PM

So your going back to stock bud?? or putting another cam in

10-11-2012, 07:23 AM	#88
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,419	That sucks. Sounds like considerable damage. Sorry to hear that Max. She'll be back better than ever though. Use this an an opportunity to upgrade something else __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

10-11-2012, 07:40 AM	#89
Maxspeed ~COTW 6/30/14~ Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mansfield Mass Posts: 2,906 View My Garage	Thanks Snizzle. I'm just putting her back to before. I really enjoyed the car the way it was. I only joyride around town with it rarely taking it on the hgihway so I have no need for more HP __________________ Mods: Heritage Grill, Blade Spoiler, Corrado Hoodliner Mural, Premium Engine Boxes, Radiator Shroud, Custom Painted Bowties, Dipstick & Engine Caps, RX Catch Can, Corsa cat back exhaust, CAI black powder coat cold air, Apex cold air intake scoop and Apex washer tank relocate kit, Dynatech SuperMAXX Ceramic Coated LT Headers, High Flow Cats, JRE470 Rough Idle Cam Package, DSS 1,000 RWHP Axels, Slowhawk Mustang Dyno Tune, QTP QTEC 66 Low Profile Cutouts and iTSX. 453 RWHP 427 RWTQ WEB LINKS BUILD TIMING CHAIN FAILURE TRANSITION FROM STOCK TO CAM VID

10-11-2012, 10:20 AM	#93
Ebbsnflows Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1-1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western NC Posts: 405	I'll echo what the others have said Max...and say that I'm sorry to hear that this happened. I had hoped that it would be an easy/simple fix. Unfortunately anyone that's been in the horsepower game for any length of time can tell these same types of stories over and over. Breakage and failure is generally considered 'the cost of doing business' for most of us. I broke a header bolt off in my 2000 SS with 1700 miles on it (had to pull head an have it tapped and heli-coiled), I stripped the HEAD-BOLT threads out out of the block with 7k miles on the car (doing my 3rd head swap on it), I've broken valve springs and bent valves, sheered off all 5 wheel studs, dropping me onto 3 wheels...I've I've grenaded driveshafts, rear ends...etc. You get picture. But those lessons haven't been for nothing. They taught me to work on my own cars and when given the opportunity, build it better/stronger than before. Good luck with your repairs...don't let it get you down. A LOT OF US have been where you are. Just don't skimp on the rebuild...pay now or pay more later. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1/1LE

10-11-2012, 10:35 AM	#95
Maxspeed ~COTW 6/30/14~ Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mansfield Mass Posts: 2,906 View My Garage	Hi Brandon No I haven't. I called Chevy CS yesterday case 71-1115680730 and was told that a rep would need to diagnose that the timing chain failed with out help from the mods before I would be covered. The codes indicated that it was a cam sensor so I flat bedded it a few hundred miles to the shop that did the mods where they informed me that the chain failed bending 9 valves, broke the timing gears, the oil pump was damaged, sheared the bolts of the upper tming gear allowing the cam to shift destroying the lifters. Not bad for a car with 4,200 miles on it mostly driven the speed limit up and down Main Steet. I did a lot of research after the fact and there have been issues with earlier model timing chains and the LS3 chain tensioner failing. __________________ Mods: Heritage Grill, Blade Spoiler, Corrado Hoodliner Mural, Premium Engine Boxes, Radiator Shroud, Custom Painted Bowties, Dipstick & Engine Caps, RX Catch Can, Corsa cat back exhaust, CAI black powder coat cold air, Apex cold air intake scoop and Apex washer tank relocate kit, Dynatech SuperMAXX Ceramic Coated LT Headers, High Flow Cats, JRE470 Rough Idle Cam Package, DSS 1,000 RWHP Axels, Slowhawk Mustang Dyno Tune, QTP QTEC 66 Low Profile Cutouts and iTSX. 453 RWHP 427 RWTQ WEB LINKS BUILD TIMING CHAIN FAILURE TRANSITION FROM STOCK TO CAM VID Last edited by Maxspeed; 10-11-2012 at 10:58 AM.

10-12-2012, 04:35 PM	#96
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,419	Update Max? Got her back yet? __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

10-11-2012, 09:46 AM	#92
f5journal Senior Camaro Fanatic Drives: 2011 SS/RS manual - White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 1,980	So out of curiosity, just what would cause this timing chain to fail under the subject conditions. Is it pulling harder turning the aftermarket cam and or springs ect?? Or, would it have failed as stock

10-12-2012, 05:21 PM	#97
Maxspeed ~COTW 6/30/14~ Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mansfield Mass Posts: 2,906 View My Garage	She was tested today I will get it next week. Hopefully I will never be struck by lightning again! __________________ Mods: Heritage Grill, Blade Spoiler, Corrado Hoodliner Mural, Premium Engine Boxes, Radiator Shroud, Custom Painted Bowties, Dipstick & Engine Caps, RX Catch Can, Corsa cat back exhaust, CAI black powder coat cold air, Apex cold air intake scoop and Apex washer tank relocate kit, Dynatech SuperMAXX Ceramic Coated LT Headers, High Flow Cats, JRE470 Rough Idle Cam Package, DSS 1,000 RWHP Axels, Slowhawk Mustang Dyno Tune, QTP QTEC 66 Low Profile Cutouts and iTSX. 453 RWHP 427 RWTQ WEB LINKS BUILD TIMING CHAIN FAILURE TRANSITION FROM STOCK TO CAM VID

10-12-2012, 06:21 PM	#98
TRC-SS 700RWHP-650TQ Drives: 2011 Forged LS3 Supercharged/Cammed Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Shrewsbury Massachusetts Posts: 5,269 View My Garage	So your going back to stock bud?? or putting another cam in __________________ View Build HERE>>>>>MY 2011 2SS/RS JOURNAL