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ABADZL1 · 10-09-2017, 06:34 PM

Hey what injectors do you have? Just noticed those things are screaming. Lol

QUICRNU · 10-09-2017, 06:36 PM

Good Luck man, you better get it going, I was growing some corn in the backyard to sell you. Soooo my future mods depend on it.

hammdo · 10-09-2017, 07:35 PM

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Hey what injectors do you have? Just noticed those things are screaming. Lol

ID1050x injectors -- for corn! 126 lbs an hour @ 55%!

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Good Luck man, you better get it going, I was growing some corn in the backyard to sell you. Soooo my future mods depend on it.

Damn straight... gotta keep those 'farmers' working!

-Don

hammdo · 10-09-2017, 09:29 PM

Well, went though my hour long data log -- looking @ the peaks and valleys -- found this:

This one jumped to 100% Ethanol! Looking @ that, and if I find no issues with the wiring -- looks like another bad GM sensor. I tested the wiring as far as the 'agitate' tests (moving the wiring aggressively without manhandling it) and it never skipped a beat. I'll take it out and datalog again just to see if the aluminized kevlar helps (as far as heat).

Goes to show data logging can be very useful...

-Don

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 12:44 AM

Well, after all that fun, I finally replaced the sensor again -- this time, I moved it to the 'ZL1' position, added the aluminized kevlar to the back. While I was at it, I had a new fuel hose (this one has been off a lot, so rather than keep taking it off, I put the sensor and fuel line on). I took it for an initial drive without data logging. I setup my aeroforce annunciator for alcohol to light up if I get below 00.1% -- tested that by turning on the key -- they lite up while the engine was off. Started it up, reading good, took it for a quick spin (thunder storms coming so I had to do it quick). Got the revs up, worked like a charm! I'll do a full data log, but this time, no '0'%. I had a HELL of a time taking off the DSX adapter from the fuel line. When it seals, it seals!

Here are some pics of the 'proper' ZL1 setup:

This is where it was 'supposed' to be in the first place -- I think I'd rather eliminate that as an issue.

Now, normally, I'd do each 1 @ a time but, since I had everything new, and I already had things off, there was no sense in having to do it again. I know it was not the older hose, I tested the new sensor and it showed the % Alcohol correctly even with the older hose. Now that I have the new hose and sensor in the proper place, I'll do a full log tomorrow to prove my diagnosis -- it was the sensor again (from a local dealer too!).

The one I have in now, is from DSX, and it appears to be working correctly!

-Don

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 01:47 AM

Something I want to show. I was testing the 'aux pump' pressure (using the 1 bar sensor) and I noticed a bit of fuel leaking around the hose fitting near the evap connector. One thing to keep in mind, when you change out from the DSX fitting to stock, you need to add the clip back:

I'm lucky I caught that -- could have been a bad thing had I not -- so keep that in mind when you change things up...

-Don

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonman

See!

Look what you did ABAD!

<----Looks around for nearest black hole to escape into another universe before Don blows this one up.

This is next:

Flux capacitor...

-Don

InFiD3ViL · 10-10-2017, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hammdo

Videos!

Good lord Don!

Your setup is just absolutely amazing. Seriously man, it makes me very happy to see someone take so much time, care, and effort to put together a build like yours. Then to top it off, you take even more of your time to put together invaluable 'How To' guides and videos for the community.

Dragonman · 10-10-2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hammdo

This is next:

Flux capacitor...

-Don

Oh jeez. Someone put a speed limiter on that thing so he can't reach 88mph, travel to other times and really cause a ruckus.

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonman

Oh jeez. Someone put a speed limiter on that thing so he can't reach 88mph, travel to other times and really cause a ruckus.

I know, it's insane ;o)...but fun...

-Don

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Good lord Don!

Your setup is just absolutely amazing. Seriously man, it makes me very happy to see someone take so much time, care, and effort to put together a build like yours. Then to top it off, you take even more of your time to put together invaluable 'How To' guides and videos for the community.

Thanks! I try to show the good and not so good, as well as lessons learned. I've learned a lot and hope folks can get something out of all this. These cars are just amazing and I'm greatful I own one. I like giving back and sharing so others can decide for themselves what they can do with their rides....

-Don

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 08:47 AM

I forgot to post these on the new flex fuel arrangement (ZL1 Style):

Now, I'd like to 'clip' the upper hose connection, but there is simply no room for the factory clip to work. I'll see if I can come up with something that might work...

Anyway, this is how the instructions from DSX show the 'correct' setup for the ZL1.

-Don

ABADZL1 · 10-10-2017, 09:15 AM

I could never get the sensor arranged on my car to stop pushing the lid off. Wish there was a better location. When I took it off and sold it, the fuel line went with it. Once it clicks, it's permanent. Lol

hammdo · 10-10-2017, 10:20 AM

Yep, That is why I replace the fuel hose with a new one -- its a BEAR to get off. Hose + sensor is around $100 if you replace as a set. I really do wish there was a tool that could get in there -- or an extension to the sensor fuel line would be awesome.

My setup actually fits under the beauty cover nicely -- no issues at all with plenty of room. This location makes better sense than where I had it. We'll see how it all does tonight when I do another data log session...

-Don

10-09-2017, 06:34 PM	#1625
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	Hey what injectors do you have? Just noticed those things are screaming. Lol __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

10-09-2017, 06:36 PM	#1626
QUICRNU Drives: Z06 wannabe Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 1,200	Good Luck man, you better get it going, I was growing some corn in the backyard to sell you. Soooo my future mods depend on it. __________________ Apex Focused

10-09-2017, 09:29 PM	#1628
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Well, went though my hour long data log -- looking @ the peaks and valleys -- found this: This one jumped to 100% Ethanol! Looking @ that, and if I find no issues with the wiring -- looks like another bad GM sensor. I tested the wiring as far as the 'agitate' tests (moving the wiring aggressively without manhandling it) and it never skipped a beat. I'll take it out and datalog again just to see if the aluminized kevlar helps (as far as heat). Goes to show data logging can be very useful... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

10-10-2017, 12:44 AM	#1629
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Flex Fuel Sensor Issue 2 continued Well, after all that fun, I finally replaced the sensor again -- this time, I moved it to the 'ZL1' position, added the aluminized kevlar to the back. While I was at it, I had a new fuel hose (this one has been off a lot, so rather than keep taking it off, I put the sensor and fuel line on). I took it for an initial drive without data logging. I setup my aeroforce annunciator for alcohol to light up if I get below 00.1% -- tested that by turning on the key -- they lite up while the engine was off. Started it up, reading good, took it for a quick spin (thunder storms coming so I had to do it quick). Got the revs up, worked like a charm! I'll do a full data log, but this time, no '0'%. I had a HELL of a time taking off the DSX adapter from the fuel line. When it seals, it seals! Here are some pics of the 'proper' ZL1 setup: This is where it was 'supposed' to be in the first place -- I think I'd rather eliminate that as an issue. Now, normally, I'd do each 1 @ a time but, since I had everything new, and I already had things off, there was no sense in having to do it again. I know it was not the older hose, I tested the new sensor and it showed the % Alcohol correctly even with the older hose. Now that I have the new hose and sensor in the proper place, I'll do a full log tomorrow to prove my diagnosis -- it was the sensor again (from a local dealer too!). The one I have in now, is from DSX, and it appears to be working correctly! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 10-10-2017 at 07:43 PM.

10-10-2017, 01:47 AM	#1630
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Danger Will Robinson! Something I want to show. I was testing the 'aux pump' pressure (using the 1 bar sensor) and I noticed a bit of fuel leaking around the hose fitting near the evap connector. One thing to keep in mind, when you change out from the DSX fitting to stock, you need to add the clip back: I'm lucky I caught that -- could have been a bad thing had I not -- so keep that in mind when you change things up... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 10-13-2017 at 12:35 AM.

10-10-2017, 08:47 AM	#1636
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	I forgot to post these on the new flex fuel arrangement (ZL1 Style): Now, I'd like to 'clip' the upper hose connection, but there is simply no room for the factory clip to work. I'll see if I can come up with something that might work... Anyway, this is how the instructions from DSX show the 'correct' setup for the ZL1. -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

10-10-2017, 09:15 AM	#1637
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	I could never get the sensor arranged on my car to stop pushing the lid off. Wish there was a better location. When I took it off and sold it, the fuel line went with it. Once it clicks, it's permanent. Lol __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

10-10-2017, 10:20 AM	#1638
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Yep, That is why I replace the fuel hose with a new one -- its a BEAR to get off. Hose + sensor is around $100 if you replace as a set. I really do wish there was a tool that could get in there -- or an extension to the sensor fuel line would be awesome. My setup actually fits under the beauty cover nicely -- no issues at all with plenty of room. This location makes better sense than where I had it. We'll see how it all does tonight when I do another data log session... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 10-10-2017 at 11:37 AM.