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here's the 1LE that was used for development and benchmarking on the Nurburgring in Germany for almost a year....


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[mjk3888]

It does seem lower. I wonder if something was up with the Black SS 1LE that has been on display. I think saying that the springs still need to settle is the easiest answer but thats a long way to settle. Maybe the display model has the wrong springs and is only for the shows? If so I would expect they would point out that a lower ride height is part of the SS 1LE package.

Another thing to consider is tire size. Assuming the prototype was running 5th gen 1LE tire sizes and using this size calculator then the prototype was running on tires that where 16.5 MM smaller in diameter in the rear and 28.5 MM in the front. That alone is a over 1/4" front and 1/2" rear larger wheel gap compared to the prototype.

I think that if the tire sizes were upped to 285/35 front and 305/35 rear along with maybe a half inch to a full inch lowering spring. It would go an extremely long way to improve the stance.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

It does seem lower. I wonder if something was up with the Black SS 1LE that has been on display. I think saying that the springs still need to settle is the easiest answer but thats a long way to settle. Maybe the display model has the wrong springs and is only for the shows? If so I would expect they would point out that a lower ride height is part of the SS 1LE package.

I think if the wrong springs were used, they would cut them or modify the mounts in a way to represent what they were going to sell. This car does not need to be 100% functional, but it does need to be aesthetically correct to avoid the very situation that is going on right now.

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

I think if the wrong springs were used, they would cut them or modify the mounts in a way to represent what they were going to sell. This car does not need to be 100% functional, but it does need to be aesthetically correct to avoid the very situation that is going on right now.

I agree. It's pretty wishful thinking, but a guy can hope. I edited my post to include some more info. I think the solution might require 35 series tires to replace the 30's and probably a 1" drop.

[SS 1LE]

Al O said that 1LE development is not done, and to possibly expect some changes...I can guarantee you one of those will be a lower ride height. Especially after they see all the bitching about the ride height being too high. They read this place, I can guarantee that too lol...

Check out the press shots of the SS 1LE. Even with the lower tires of the new version, it sits somewhat better (lower) in these...I think they will make it right.

[mjk3888]

Thats great! I didn't know he said that.

Maybe they will decide to cave on the 2SS 1LE too. I would love that! My wallet won't though. HAHAHA!

Honestly all I want is the climate controlled Recaro's and Heated steering wheel, but no way we get that without then entire 2SS suite of goodies.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Just note that lowering ride height from a manufacturer's standpoint also requires new crash/safety testing, which can be cost-prohibitive for an option package...

I also think the show car sits higher than the final product; but don't get your hopes up for a significant drop.

Also note that pictures make it look taller than it really is...especially low-level photographs.

[ST1LE]

I agree with SS 1LE. I think it is too early to worry about the ride height. ONLY the 1LE at the car show has tremendous wheel gap. I am hoping it will settle down a bit, but whatever performs best is what it will be.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Maybe they will decide to cave on the 2SS 1LE too. I would love that! My wallet won't though. HAHAHA!

That will not happen.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Just note that lowering ride height from a manufacturer's standpoint also requires new crash/safety testing, which can be cost-prohibitive for an option package...

That is incorrect. They don't test every level of pick ups, from the lower riding rear wheel drive ones to the big 4x4 daulies. They usually do one trim level and so on. Furthermore, the car companies don't pay for and supply the cars to the IIHS, they purchase the cars themselves...

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[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

That will not happen.

I think its a long shot. Perhaps I'm only seeing it as a possibility because I never really understood why a 2SS wasn't available in the first place. For whatever reason thats what they decided and its hard to see them changing their mind now, but if they did it won't require any additional work. Climate controlled recaros from the 2LT 1LE and all the other 2SS features that already exist.

[Bhobbs]

The 2SS 1LE is being developed along side the LT6 for the Z/28.

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The 2SS 1LE is being developed along side the LT6 for the Z/28.

well played sir

all in all if the ride height is like the picture that SS 1LE posted then thats all I need I will have no problem with my 1SS 1LE.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

That will not happen.

So sure?

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

That is incorrect. They don't test every level of pick ups, from the lower riding rear wheel drive ones to the big 4x4 daulies. They usually do one trim level and so on. Furthermore, the car companies don't pay for and supply the cars to the IIHS, they purchase the cars themselves...

The information I mentioned came direct from the engineers that worked on the first 1LE. They didn't drop it because it would have required some form of safety re-validation.

It could have been internal, or it could have been the IIHS...I don't know that part, but I do recall what they told me when I asked about the ride height of that car.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

well played sir

all in all if the ride height is like the picture that SS 1LE posted then thats all I need I will have no problem with my 1SS 1LE.

I would be surprised to see the final production car sit that high. The test car we saw around Germany didn't sit that high.