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Old 12-13-2012, 10:29 PM   #1
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Roll cage no longer required!!

For those of us racing our 5th Gens and holding them back to avoid the roll cage requirements::

http://www.dragzine.com/news/nhra-am...treet-vehicles
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:02 AM   #2
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For those of us racing our 5th Gens and holding them back to avoid the roll cage requirements::

http://www.dragzine.com/news/nhra-am...treet-vehicles

But no one has figured out what unaltered means. If you add a supercharge is it now altered?

Quote from article.

We’ve yet to conclude the exact meaning behind the wording “unaltered” in the text and whether that refers to the vehicle frame or the existence of power adders and the like.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:27 AM   #3
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Yes... I see your point. The way I read it was an unaltered body/frame, since convertibles still have to meet the rollcage requirement, not necessarily an unaltered engine. So I guess we will wait for the final word on that.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:33 AM   #4
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Yes... I see your point. The way I read it was an unaltered body/frame, since convertibles still have to meet the rollcage requirement, not necessarily an unaltered engine. So I guess we will wait for the final word on that.
I don't read it that way. The way I read it is that they don't know what "unaltered" means yet.


"Cars like the 2013 GT500 Mustang and the Corvette ZR1 are capable of surpassing the 11.50 mark right off the showroom floor. We’ve yet to conclude the exact meaning behind the wording “unaltered” in the text and whether that refers to the vehicle frame or the existence of power adders and the iike."
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:43 PM   #5
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Its got to be body & frame with some one tring to lose wieght. by removing braces support panel air bags there a lot you can cut away.
As for eng mods the supercharger on my car is just as safe as one with out a supercharger.
My question is sun/moon roof were do thay fall in ?????
Its not a complete hard top.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:44 AM   #6
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I know a lot of tracks have been letting cars like ZR1, Porsche TT, etc run without roll bars since they can run faster than 11.50s bone stock.

Unaltered might mean - stock from the factory?
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #7
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I'm thinking if they let factory stock cars run without bars, the some track might be more lenient with late models cars like ours.
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If you need it or want it Tim at RPM roll bars will help you with a bolt in certified 5th gen roll bar.


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Old 12-17-2012, 07:05 PM   #9
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If you need it or want it Tim at RPM roll bars will help you with a bolt in certified 5th gen roll bar.


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Old 12-17-2012, 11:40 PM   #10
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I have been running 10.80's to 11.20's for two years in my cobalt with not one issue. Has never raised a flag at any of the three tracks I have raced at. One of them which is my home track is Norwalk. I like how I can run 9's all day on the bike tho with just a helmet, jacket, and gloves with jeans on lol and have to have a full suit in the car.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:51 PM   #11
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It does seem the rules have lightened up for our late model cars.

This from the the track in Indy.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #12
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Ran an 11.40 tonight amd was asked to leave. Kinda bummed. I'm still working the kinks and can't run it...
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:05 AM   #13
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This applies to unaltered factory cars.
I don't think people with modded cars should get too excited till that is cleared up. hmmm
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:43 PM   #14
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This article mentions GT500's specifically. But they are not factory built, but rather factory authorized modifications.

The chassis is deemed safe in this configuration, what is the difference in when I build the motor? I believe the rule should specifically mention unmodified chassis, i.e. air bags, no lightening, and so on.
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