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Old 05-02-2013, 09:28 AM   #57
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Yes, that would get me off the fence, new tail lights be damn...just give me one and oh add the magnetic ride option to please...

The way it was:
1969 Goat:
The previous economy engine and standard 350 hp 400 CID V8 remained, while the 360 hp (270 kW) 400HO was upgraded to the Ram Air III, rated at 366 hp (273 kW) at 5,100 rpm. The top option was the 370 hp (280 kW) Ram Air IV, which featured special header-like high-flow exhaust manifolds, high-flow cylinder heads, a specific high-rise aluminum intake manifold, larger Rochester QuadraJet four-barrel carburetor, high-lift/long-duration camshaft, plus various internal components capable of withstanding higher engine speeds and power output....I had the Ram Air III as the IV had a/c delete due to the cam rtc and it is hot down here..

Then in '70 you had a chouice of big block too..

A new option was Pontiac's 455 HO engine (different from the round-port offerings of the 1971-72 cars), available now that GM had rescinded its earlier ban on intermediates with engines larger than 400. The 455, a long-stroke engine also available in the full-size Pontiac line as well as the Grand Prix, was dubiously rated by Pontiac as only moderately stronger than the base 350 HP 400 cu. in. and less powerful than the 366 hp (273 kW) Ram Air III. Curiously, per the Pontiac brochure of the time, the same spec 455 installed in the Grand Prix model was rated at 370 horsepower (280 kW). The camshafts used in the Ram Air III and the GTO 455 HO were the same. For example the manual transmission 455 HO's used the same 288/302 duration cam as the Ram air III. The 455 was rated at 360 hp (270 kW) at 4,300 rpm. Its advantage was torque: 500 lb·ft (678 N·m) at 2,700 rpm.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:18 AM   #58
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I was hoping that the 427 being offered was an SS427 option for this model year, so I agree with the OP. In my view, GM did an odd thing by not calling the ZL1 a Z28- the ZL1 is much more of a mass marketed high end Camaro, and the Z28 nameplate would have sold many more cars. The current Z28 is more reminiscent of the ZL1 cars from 69 (which is where the name comes from) than the original Z28- stripped down, 427, yada yada yada. Baffling, but I'm sure there were smart people with money in mind when they made that decision. To me, not the smart marketing guy from GM, the Z28 should be more of a mass market vehicle than it's going to be. Like it was stated, the Z28's are going to be rarely seen on the road- with that front bumper/splitter you can't park it anywhere without damaging it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:48 AM   #59
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Which refers back to original question. WHY DOESNT GM OFFER THIS?
SLP runs approximately $10000 over MSRP for this for a base package with includes wheels and such. GM CAN offer this in an SS as an option for around $8000 over MSRP and make a profit. If SLP does it for this cost, and they dont do this for free, GM can do this as well.
What the ZL700 is 35K over the car cost then start adding wheels to it and your over 70K for the car.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:09 PM   #60
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Its not there. I spoke to SLP on the phone. Adding just a 427 in it would cost about $10k on top of the MSRP of a new camaro SS is what I was told. They just give the base kit for it with is about $3k on the website. Thats not including the 427.
I know it is crazy a guy in our club has a Pace Car with SLP upgrades it was additional $30,000 plus on topof the cost of his car.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #61
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What the ZL700 is 35K over the car cost then start adding wheels to it and your over 70K for the car.
Right for a ZL700! Im talking strictly about the Z427 package. Not to mention just installin a 427 into the car. Im waiting to hear back as he did state yesterday that $10000 over MSRP for a Z427 package.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:42 PM   #62
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Right for a ZL700! Im talking strictly about the Z427 package. Not to mention just installin a 427 into the car. Im waiting to hear back as he did state yesterday that $10000 over MSRP for a Z427 package.

Please let us know what they say. It appears to me that the Z427 package refers to the HP output,not the cubic inches.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:46 PM   #63
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Please let us know what they say. It appears to me that the Z427 package refers to the HP output,not the cubic inches.
Exactly! Their Z packages refer to HP rating, not cubic inches! If they were dropping in 427s for $10K I don't think they'd keep up with demand.
Besides, unless I already had the 1LE package, I would want to beef up the suspension, transmission, differential, axles, bushings, sway bars, etc.
The base SS shows some weaknesses when it puts 500+ to the wheels. It'll handle it, but you won't enjoy it.
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