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Rmkuper · 05-04-2021, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

Haven't heard from you in a while how's everything going?

CAM is at machine shop getting old pin removed and new one installed hope to have it back today. If that's the case I hope to have everything back together tonight.

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wasthatacop? · 05-04-2021, 10:14 AM

I was wondering if what I'd said to you on 4/26/21 helped you find the issue...
Although I do remember that putting the VVT camshaft sprocket back on was tough because you have to line up that one notch that basically spins the camshaft. It was difficult to see behind the VVT stuff.

Did you have much of a problem lining up the notch from the camshaft to the timing sprocket? If so, maybe you could reassemble it?

morepowerjoe · 05-07-2021, 08:19 AM

Hey buddy how's it coming along?

Rmkuper · 05-07-2021, 09:08 AM

Not good....
A local reputatable machine shop turned what should have been a simple fix into a nightmare(photo). My buddy pulled some strings for me and got me in touch with a local race car builder, we're talking 5-6 sec 1/4 mile cars. Apparently he is one of the best machinist in a couple hundred miles of me. He said if he can't get it out he might be able to fill it in and Re drill using the stock cam as an index. He has it now hopefully he can do something with it. If not I'm going to go with vvt delete. Less room for mistakes, though I don't know what else I could possibly screw up at this point.

I'll get her running maybe not before the track season comes to an end but I'll get her running.

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1JEWLDSSRS · 05-07-2021, 11:58 AM

OMG brother!!! Man I feel for you. Nothing like having a dream/goal set for yourself and for some reason the boulders keep falling in front of you to stop the progress. That sucks. Hang in there, you will get her going sooner than later and it will all be worth it. Getting some real experience though. Good luck..

Rmkuper · 05-07-2021, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

OMG brother!!! Man I feel for you. Nothing like having a dream/goal set for yourself and for some reason the boulders keep falling in front of you to stop the progress. That sucks. Hang in there, you will get her going sooner than later and it will all be worth it. Getting some real experience though. Good luck..

It has been a journey and a learning experience 4sure! Thanks for the encouragement.

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morepowerjoe · 05-07-2021, 03:27 PM

Yeah you'll get it. It make take some hard work but it'll be worth it in the end. I just replaced my oil pump for the third time and finally got it right. Boy did I learn the hard way. But it was worth it and a great learning experience so I don't regret it at all. Don't worry it will all come together.

1JEWLDSSRS · 05-07-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rmkuper

It has been a journey and a learning experience 4sure! Thanks for the encouragement.

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You are welcome my friend!! I would have already tossed that sucker out and got a different one. I don't have that kind of patience and calm anymore for stuff like that. Good luck.

G8One2 · 05-07-2021, 07:46 PM

I'll be putting my engine on a stand when I do my cam install. Idk how some you guys have the patience to do it in vehicle, and struggle with things like the oil pickup tube or getting the oil pan off. I know it "can" be done, as many of you have done it, but man..... what a pain in the butt it can be doing all of this in vehicle.

Tarendor · 05-07-2021, 08:42 PM

Nothing better the getting to say "built not bought" when your all done. (Done is a metaphor for currently running because we are never done lol)

Rmkuper · 05-07-2021, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarendor

Nothing better the getting to say "built not bought" when your all done. (Done is a metaphor for currently running because we are never done lol)

Yes sir right there on the fuse box.

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Badfinger · 05-08-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rmkuper

So tell me how did you go about verifying the down pin was inserted properly in the cam phaser/gear because you can't see it. Or did you go with a 3bolt?

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Don't know a local speed shop put it together for me. Above my pay grade

Greenhornet2 · 05-10-2021, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by G8One2

I'll be putting my engine on a stand when I do my cam install. Idk how some you guys have the patience to do it in vehicle, and struggle with things like the oil pickup tube or getting the oil pan off. I know it "can" be done, as many of you have done it, but man..... what a pain in the butt it can be doing all of this in vehicle.

Easy, don't replace the oil pump lol. I did a cam was probably the easiest cam job I've done in a pushrod engine. I didn't replace the oil pump.

G8One2 · 05-10-2021, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenhornet2

Easy, don't replace the oil pump lol. I did a cam was probably the easiest cam job I've done in a pushrod engine. I didn't replace the oil pump.

Yeah I wont be doing that lol I will be degreeing the cam, measuring PTV clearance, flycutting the pistons etc.... More of build than anything else. Not your average cam swap.

05-04-2021, 10:14 AM	#16
wasthatacop? Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 360 View My Garage	I was wondering if what I'd said to you on 4/26/21 helped you find the issue... Although I do remember that putting the VVT camshaft sprocket back on was tough because you have to line up that one notch that basically spins the camshaft. It was difficult to see behind the VVT stuff. Did you have much of a problem lining up the notch from the camshaft to the timing sprocket? If so, maybe you could reassemble it? __________________ 2010 2SS living in Los Angeles replaced engine @ 93,000 miles w/ crate engine, camshaft by Comp Cams installed by me, replaced valve train parts, 1.4" BMR lowering springs ZL1 factory rims misc: drilled and slotted rotors, fresh air brake cooling system, new speakers, installed reverse camera, muffler delete

05-07-2021, 08:19 AM	#17
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,103	Hey buddy how's it coming along? __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

05-07-2021, 11:58 AM	#19
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,435	OMG brother!!! Man I feel for you. Nothing like having a dream/goal set for yourself and for some reason the boulders keep falling in front of you to stop the progress. That sucks. Hang in there, you will get her going sooner than later and it will all be worth it. Getting some real experience though. Good luck.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

05-07-2021, 03:27 PM	#21
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,103	Yeah you'll get it. It make take some hard work but it'll be worth it in the end. I just replaced my oil pump for the third time and finally got it right. Boy did I learn the hard way. But it was worth it and a great learning experience so I don't regret it at all. Don't worry it will all come together. __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

05-07-2021, 08:42 PM	#24
Tarendor Drives: 2012 camaro 2ss rs L99 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: North Sioux city SD Posts: 446 View My Garage	Nothing better the getting to say "built not bought" when your all done. (Done is a metaphor for currently running because we are never done lol) __________________ 2012 2SS/RS, L99, no cats/mufflers, Ported intake manifold, fuel rail upgrade, ID1050x injectors, Vmax throttle body, 25% UDP, GPI DOD delete, GPI SS3, GPI cnc heads, GPI – 5/16″ Hardened Pushrods, BTR trunion upgrade, BTR .660 springs, pcv revamp w/dual catch cans, Circle D 3800, full BMR suspension & bushings. ZL1 fuel pump, HPT programmed fpcm. JMS bap, Snow VC-50 methanol setup. custom 4gal methonal tank, vs7875 turbo, FMIC, precision 46mm WG, 50mm BOV, 3bar map, SJM line lock, Innovate SCG-1, Hurst shifter with tap shift mod, ×2 Holley 14" fans Diy E85, Diy auxiliary pump

05-07-2021, 09:08 AM	#18
Rmkuper Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Newburgh Posts: 164	Not good.... A local reputatable machine shop turned what should have been a simple fix into a nightmare(photo). My buddy pulled some strings for me and got me in touch with a local race car builder, we're talking 5-6 sec 1/4 mile cars. Apparently he is one of the best machinist in a couple hundred miles of me. He said if he can't get it out he might be able to fill it in and Re drill using the stock cam as an index. He has it now hopefully he can do something with it. If not I'm going to go with vvt delete. Less room for mistakes, though I don't know what else I could possibly screw up at this point. I'll get her running maybe not before the track season comes to an end but I'll get her running. Sent from my SM-F916U using Tapatalk

05-07-2021, 07:46 PM	#23
G8One2 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 492	I'll be putting my engine on a stand when I do my cam install. Idk how some you guys have the patience to do it in vehicle, and struggle with things like the oil pickup tube or getting the oil pan off. I know it "can" be done, as many of you have done it, but man..... what a pain in the butt it can be doing all of this in vehicle.