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Camaro154 · 02-01-2014, 05:49 PM

I installed pfadt drop springs on my car and got the car aligned to pfadts alignment recommendations. The alignment shop provided me with the alignment adjustment. The tech said I need front camber and caster kit. By looking at the alignment print out should I be worried hiw it is adjusted now? Also do you think I should purchase the front camber and caster kit?

Bo White · 02-01-2014, 06:06 PM

Yeah, its toe'd out in the rear and with that much -camber the inside of the tires will be gone in no time. Also the thrust angle is off because of how the toe on the rear is adjusted. Is the steering wheel straight now? If it is Im very surprised.

Maybe he printed the before and not after? It does say before measurements on the top of the sheet.

Camaro154 · 02-01-2014, 06:08 PM

It was after the steering wheel is slightly to the left. Hardly noticeable though. Should I buy the suggested kits then?

axis · 02-01-2014, 11:21 PM

I can't believe it's that far out. Mine was dead on those settings and had room to go further.

Bo White · 02-02-2014, 07:57 AM

The only thing I would do is go back and have the rear toe redone to .2 or so and have the thrust angle fixed(which is done while redoing rear toe). Aggressive street specs call for -1* camber front and rear so if that's what you want leave that as is. Front caster is fine as is too.

axis · 02-02-2014, 09:09 AM

Which Pfadt settings did you go with. I was assuming you went with the street performance settings.

Bruce@raymondsperformance · 02-02-2014, 09:12 AM

There is no need for a front camber kit on these cars,caster is not adjustable without a cam kit for caster ,which is not needed on your car from his print out.The rear camber is on the low side and may need a larger cam bolt to get more positve camber adjustment due to the droppped springs,Some cars need more adjustment than others.
I would believe this is the before print out though due to the front and rear toe settings if not the steering wheel would be off center.

ssmike · 02-02-2014, 09:16 AM

I dropped mine 1 1/2" and had to get the rear camber bolts to get back to zero, but the fronts were fine! Like Bruce said, no need for the bolts up front!

Camaro154 · 02-02-2014, 11:19 AM

I had then do the regular street settings not the race on the pfadt sheet.

Camaro154 · 02-02-2014, 11:19 AM

What is the the suggested fix then. What exactly should I buy.

Bo White · 02-02-2014, 12:17 PM

Buy nothing. If that printout is were the car sits now then just have the toe redone on the rear.

Camaro154 · 02-03-2014, 08:59 AM

I took it down and had it redone. The tech still recommended I get the kits. Here are the before and new values. I just want to make sure this is done right because I cannot afford to be buying tires all the time.

Bo White · 02-03-2014, 10:29 AM

That will work, total toe front and rear is a touch high but it will do fine. Its probably real touchy on the turn in setup like that.

02-01-2014, 05:49 PM	#1
Camaro154 Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA Posts: 94	should I be concerned? I installed pfadt drop springs on my car and got the car aligned to pfadts alignment recommendations. The alignment shop provided me with the alignment adjustment. The tech said I need front camber and caster kit. By looking at the alignment print out should I be worried hiw it is adjusted now? Also do you think I should purchase the front camber and caster kit? Attached Images

02-01-2014, 06:06 PM	#2
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Yeah, its toe'd out in the rear and with that much -camber the inside of the tires will be gone in no time. Also the thrust angle is off because of how the toe on the rear is adjusted. Is the steering wheel straight now? If it is Im very surprised. Maybe he printed the before and not after? It does say before measurements on the top of the sheet. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

02-01-2014, 11:21 PM	#4
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	I can't believe it's that far out. Mine was dead on those settings and had room to go further. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

02-02-2014, 07:57 AM	#5
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	The only thing I would do is go back and have the rear toe redone to .2 or so and have the thrust angle fixed(which is done while redoing rear toe). Aggressive street specs call for -1* camber front and rear so if that's what you want leave that as is. Front caster is fine as is too. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

02-02-2014, 09:09 AM	#6
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	Which Pfadt settings did you go with. I was assuming you went with the street performance settings. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

02-01-2014, 06:08 PM	#3
Camaro154 Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA Posts: 94	It was after the steering wheel is slightly to the left. Hardly noticeable though. Should I buy the suggested kits then?

02-02-2014, 09:12 AM	#7
Bruce@raymondsperformance Drives: 2014 Z28 camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 705	There is no need for a front camber kit on these cars,caster is not adjustable without a cam kit for caster ,which is not needed on your car from his print out.The rear camber is on the low side and may need a larger cam bolt to get more positve camber adjustment due to the droppped springs,Some cars need more adjustment than others. I would believe this is the before print out though due to the front and rear toe settings if not the steering wheel would be off center.

02-02-2014, 09:16 AM	#8
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	I dropped mine 1 1/2" and had to get the rear camber bolts to get back to zero, but the fronts were fine! Like Bruce said, no need for the bolts up front!

02-02-2014, 11:19 AM	#9
Camaro154 Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA Posts: 94	I had then do the regular street settings not the race on the pfadt sheet.

02-02-2014, 12:17 PM	#11
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Buy nothing. If that printout is were the car sits now then just have the toe redone on the rear. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

02-03-2014, 08:59 AM	#12
Camaro154 Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA Posts: 94	pfadt alignment update I took it down and had it redone. The tech still recommended I get the kits. Here are the before and new values. I just want to make sure this is done right because I cannot afford to be buying tires all the time. Attached Images

02-03-2014, 10:29 AM	#13
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	That will work, total toe front and rear is a touch high but it will do fine. Its probably real touchy on the turn in setup like that. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X