Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
TireRack
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-02-2010, 08:45 AM   #57
2SSRS@Gen5diy
 
2SSRS@Gen5diy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: By the lake in AZ
Posts: 15,719
Where do we get 93 out here ?
I am only 2 hr drive from you.
2SSRS@Gen5diy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 08:47 AM   #58
PoorMansCamaro



 
PoorMansCamaro's Avatar
 
Drives: Really Slow
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 56,959
^You can't. I was just saying in general. i wouldn't mind seeing 91 dyno'd, but i was just saying the lowest grade possible vs highest grade. when i say highest grade, i mean not race gas and the most common you can buy. lol
__________________
PoorMansCamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 08:53 AM   #59
2SSRS@Gen5diy
 
2SSRS@Gen5diy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: By the lake in AZ
Posts: 15,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtzako View Post
Lower performance is one issue, but not a major one for a daily driver. If you dont lose MPG by using lower octane, and it doesnt damage the engine (it shouldnt since the ECU compensates) then do what your pocketbook wants.

I currently only use 93 octane but if I was in a situation where that $7 a tank would make a difference I would use 87 for a while.
First off it has noting to do with by pocketbook i have no payments at all....

Its more to do with me thinking prove it to me first, And no one has, On my boat was told the same thing run only 91 on the 502 EFI i did not, i ran only 87 and never lost a race, So if you want to tell me to run 91, I need to see it that's how i run.
2SSRS@Gen5diy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 08:54 AM   #60
2SSRS@Gen5diy
 
2SSRS@Gen5diy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: By the lake in AZ
Posts: 15,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro View Post
^You can't. I was just saying in general. i wouldn't mind seeing 91 dyno'd, but i was just saying the lowest grade possible vs highest grade. when i say highest grade, i mean not race gas and the most common you can buy. lol
We may do that some day.
2SSRS@Gen5diy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 08:56 AM   #61
jtzako

 
Drives: 2010 IBM Camaro SS
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DFW, Tx
Posts: 1,157
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2SSRS View Post
First off it has noting to do with by pocketbook i have no payments at all....

Its more to do with me thinking prove it to me first, And no one has, On my boat was told the same thing run only 91 on the 502 EFI i did not, i ran only 87 and never lost a race, So if you want to tell me to run 91, I need to see it that's how i run.
All I can say is that each car is different. When I got mine brand new it was filled with 87 octane and felt a bit sluggish. Once I got that cleared out of the system (with 93 octane) and did the fuse pull to reset the ECU it woke the car up and I can definitely dell the difference. If I can feel it, there must be an effect on 0-60 times etc.
__________________
2010 Camaro SS Imperial Blue | CAI Inc, CAI | Solo Hi Flow Cats | X-Pipe | Backup Camera | PDIM
jtzako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 09:00 AM   #62
2SSRS@Gen5diy
 
2SSRS@Gen5diy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: By the lake in AZ
Posts: 15,719
Happy for you, do what works for you, that's what is so good in the USA we all do what is good for us.
2SSRS@Gen5diy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:11 AM   #63
irocnroll


 
irocnroll's Avatar
 
Drives: '91 RS Vert, '11 Grand Cherokee
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeSS View Post
i dont understand why people all ways ask if some one has a SS or lt when its in there info .... by to answer your question you get better MPG with 91... for years people have thought to put cheaper gas in there car when the car say premium only. but when you put the wrong gas in you could get worst mpg and loss a little hp and over years could cause more damage to ur car

bottom use 91 in cally you cant get 93, but i use 93
That is a false statement. There is no increase in MPG with different octane levels. The only difference in Octane levels is the speed at which the gas burns. And the only advantage to a faster or slower burning octane is if you have pinging or knocking problems with your engine. You are throwing money away every time you fill up if you aren't having pinging or knocking problems with your car running it at 87 octane.
irocnroll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:22 AM   #64
2SSRS@Gen5diy
 
2SSRS@Gen5diy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: By the lake in AZ
Posts: 15,719
Wow you get it, So with 87 the gas burns faster that's why it will pull some timing as it need to ignite closer to TDC of the stroke.
2SSRS@Gen5diy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:24 AM   #65
MontyCarlo

 
MontyCarlo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT/RS auto IBM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,259
The SS has been measured and proven to lose power when burning 87 instead of 91 or 93. It's a fact. If you can't feel a difference, that's due to your butt dyno not being sensitive enough.
__________________
FAQs:
1. No, I do not have any strong opinions about the Monte Carlo.
2. Yes, I know what my name looks like.
3. Yes, but the medication helps immensely.

2LT/RS IBM/gray #21,895 ordered April 21st, delivered July 3rd
MontyCarlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:24 AM   #66
sninja13
 
sninja13's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS, SIM B Rally, B Int
Join Date: May 2010
Location: York Haven, PA (Near York & Harrisburg)
Posts: 54
Send a message via AIM to sninja13 Send a message via Yahoo to sninja13 Send a message via Skype™ to sninja13
Here it is straight from the owner's manual:
-----------------------------------------
Recommended Fuel
If the vehicle has the 3.6L V6 engine
(VIN Code V), use regular unleaded
gasoline with a posted octane rating
of 87 or higher. If the octane rating is
less than 87, you might notice an
audible knocking noise when you
drive, commonly referred to as spark
knock. If this occurs, use a gasoline
rated at 87 octane or higher as soon
as possible. If you are using gasoline
rated at 87 octane or higher and you
hear heavy knocking, the engine
needs service.
If the vehicle has the 6.2L V8 engine
(VIN Code W) or the 6.2L V8 engine
(VIN Code J),
use premium unleaded
gasoline with a posted octane
rating of 91 or higher. For best
performance, use premium unleaded
gasoline with a posted octane
rating of 93. You can also use
regular unleaded gasoline rated at
87 octane or higher, but the vehicle’s
acceleration could be slightly
reduced, and you might notice a
slight audible knocking noise,
commonly referred to as a spark
knock. If the octane is less than 87,
you might notice a heavy knocking
noise when you drive. If this occurs,
use a gasoline rated at 87 octane
or higher as soon as possible.
Otherwise, you could damage the
engine.
If you are using gasoline
rated at 87 octane or higher and you
hear heavy knocking, the engine
needs service.
__________________


sninja13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:25 AM   #67
Xander
 
Xander's Avatar
 
Drives: ADM Built 740RWHP 2SS/RS
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 255
My SS/RS with a tune only gets 93
Xander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:29 AM   #68
sninja13
 
sninja13's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS, SIM B Rally, B Int
Join Date: May 2010
Location: York Haven, PA (Near York & Harrisburg)
Posts: 54
Send a message via AIM to sninja13 Send a message via Yahoo to sninja13 Send a message via Skype™ to sninja13
I only use 93 as well. The whole "could damage you engine" and "loss of performance" make me very particular about that.

I do understand that it says below 87.
__________________



Last edited by sninja13; 07-02-2010 at 11:14 AM.
sninja13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:43 AM   #69
2SSRS@Gen5diy
 
2SSRS@Gen5diy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: By the lake in AZ
Posts: 15,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyCarlo View Post
The SS has been measured and proven to lose power when burning 87 instead of 91 or 93. It's a fact. If you can't feel a difference, that's due to your butt dyno not being sensitive enough.

Please post the link to the proven lose of power running 87
2SSRS@Gen5diy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:46 AM   #70
MontyCarlo

 
MontyCarlo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT/RS auto IBM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,259
Search "fuse pull" and take your pick of the dozens of different threads about significant power loss from 87 octane.

Heck, you said yourself that you know it causes the engine to pull its timing - that's something that will ALWAYS cost you power as a direct & unavoidable effect.
__________________
FAQs:
1. No, I do not have any strong opinions about the Monte Carlo.
2. Yes, I know what my name looks like.
3. Yes, but the medication helps immensely.

2LT/RS IBM/gray #21,895 ordered April 21st, delivered July 3rd
MontyCarlo is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Octane Ratings? Icefsh Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 12 03-10-2015 05:10 AM
How much octane boost can you put in your tank? OHIOSS 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 11 05-21-2010 08:41 AM
How to get 93 octane? BlownSS 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 3 03-23-2010 12:11 PM
Anyone running something other than 87? jeansonne627 Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 31 10-01-2009 02:40 PM
No 93 Octane in California tribone Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing 15 08-27-2009 04:18 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.