SHOULD I TRADE IN MY 70 CHEVELLE SS? - Page 5 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

DangerZL1 · 07-08-2013, 02:49 PM

Simple answer: No

bowtiefamily · 07-08-2013, 02:50 PM

Keep the Chevelle and wait until you can afford both. You will regret it selling it.

SnoopyAce7 · 07-08-2013, 02:53 PM

Race a ZL1 for pinks

philthy · 07-08-2013, 02:57 PM

Do what I did....keep the Chevelle and opt for a lower trim level Camaro instead of a ZL-1. I chose to go with a V6 Camaro since it is a year-round driver. If you can swing an SS and keep the Chevelle then go for it.

I would trade my Chevelle for a 1st gen Monte Carlo (1972 was my first car), but never for a 5th gen Camaro!

bowtiefamily · 07-08-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodbine

Wow, Guys, Thanks for the imput. I really needed this. It is a numbers matching car and completely restored. It's not my youth car I have always been a camaro guy. I have a 1969 Camaro ss 396 which was my youth car. I picked up the Chevelle as it too is a one year car body style in the muscle car era. My wife says if I get another car I have to sell one That why I needed all of your advise. My only Vice is cars and sometimes can't get that itch scratched. I had the car appraised in 2008 for $60,000.00 but I know the market was hit with the economy. I would need $46,000.00 if I were to sell it to purchase a ZL1. Thinking, Thinking, Thinking...

With That being said SELL it! Good Luck.

SSNIGHTMARE · 07-08-2013, 04:15 PM

Keep the chevelle

littlecammi · 07-08-2013, 05:02 PM

Your '70 Chevelle SS looks great, but...
...like someone else said - it's not a super desireable LS6 (or even an LS5) 454.
...and it's an automatic trans - not the more desireable Muncie 4-speed manual.

You've already admitted that your 396 Camaro SS is the car to which you are more emotionally attached. But all that said, if the Chevelle is an L78 (375hp 396) then I'd keep it no matter what. If it's just a 325hp or 350hp 396, then sell it for as much as you can and move up to a gen5 Camaro ZL1. Your 396 Camaro SS and a new ZL1 would be a top notch pair to own!

woodbine · 07-08-2013, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDRDTD

Keep the 69 Camaro
Keep the 70 Chevelle
Sell the wife (and any children)
Sell the house
Buy the ZL1.

Too Funny!!!

woodbine · 07-08-2013, 05:05 PM

I am overwhelmed at everyone's responses. I really appreciate the family atmosphere that this forum has. Thank you

OldJedi · 07-08-2013, 09:22 PM

I owned a black/black 70 SS396 4 Speed. I loved the car but traded it for my first Corvette which led to a lot of other Corvettes. The 70 Chevelle is powerful but it is not a ZL1. The SS simply does not have the handling, braking and finesse of the ZL1. But it does have history and appreciating value. It's value will most likely double in the next ten years. The ZL1 will still be depreciating. If there was a way to negotiate with the wife to convince her of its value and you have a place to keep it inside, try to keep the SS. Don't get me wrong, I know that the ZL1 has over 40 years of technology and the best parts that any car can have without any squeaks, moans or rattles. My 67 Vette as a lot of nostalgia and draws a lot of attention but it does not have the power, brakes and handling of the ZL1. Tracking the ZL1 shows me how good this car really is. There is a place in my life for both cars but the ZL1 always puts a smile on my face. Another alternative might be the 1LE, great handling at a much lower price point and Recaros in 2014. I hope you are able to get and keep both cars. Good Luck.

caverman · 07-08-2013, 10:00 PM

If you have another youth car (your '69 Camaro) then it might not be as bad and I would probably consider the ZL1. If it was your only muscle car I would say HELL NO!

I can't tell you the number of times people come up to me in my '69 that say I had, brother or dad that had, or I should've never gotten rid of that car.

I will say that even though mine isn't a ZL1, I love having both new and old muscle car. ZL1 would just be even more over the top. I hope to be able to afford one some day but never at the cost of me getting rid of my '69 (which I've had mine since I was 16).

LimaCharlie · 07-08-2013, 11:43 PM

In terms of value, keep the Chevelle. A restored numbers-matching SS is far more valuable than a ZL1. The Chevelle will just keep appreciating in value. The ZL1 will appreciate in value eventually too but that is YEARS away.
If you're looking for a fun car that could be used for daily driver duties (and be reliable), the ZL1 is the obvious choice.
It sounds like you have cars being used for daily drivers already so I'd KEEP THE CHEVELLE.

Slapshot · 07-08-2013, 11:55 PM

The ZL1 will never ever be as valuable as that Chevelle. These 5th gen camaros will never appreciate in value the way that car will. There's simply no comparison between an original muscle car and a newer car of any kind. Those things were built like a tank compared to modern cars.

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MY CA.ZL1 · 07-09-2013, 01:58 AM

First you have a all time beautiful car.Few are left that look this good.On the other hand remember when the 5th gen first came out high demand and people paying over msrp.same thing with the ZL1 first year demand was high with only apox 1900 ZLs made.second year around 8000 zls are made with Some selling under msrp and 2012 selling for around $48000.now the Z-28 is coming out and then the 6th gen.my 2011 ss which i paid 3000 under msrp dropped in value 7500 first year.the same with my ZL.i love my car but you have a one of a kind the will only go up in value.

07-08-2013, 02:50 PM	#58
bowtiefamily Drives: Chevrolet Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 588 View My Garage	Keep the Chevelle and wait until you can afford both. You will regret it selling it. Attached Images __________________

07-08-2013, 02:53 PM	#59
SnoopyAce7 (ʘ‿ʘ) Drives: The one with a roof rack Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,221	Race a ZL1 for pinks __________________

07-08-2013, 02:57 PM	#60
philthy Drives: 1971 Monte Carlo/2010 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Macomb Township, MI Posts: 821 View My Garage	Do what I did....keep the Chevelle and opt for a lower trim level Camaro instead of a ZL-1. I chose to go with a V6 Camaro since it is a year-round driver. If you can swing an SS and keep the Chevelle then go for it. I would trade my Chevelle for a 1st gen Monte Carlo (1972 was my first car), but never for a 5th gen Camaro! Attached Images __________________ 2024 Camaro SS convertible 2010 Camaro 2LT 2019 Cadillac CTS 1971 Monte Carlo

07-08-2013, 04:15 PM	#62
SSNIGHTMARE Drives: 2002 SS Camaro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 372	Keep the chevelle __________________ 04 GMC LB7, SOCAL DIESEL STAGE 2 HEADS, CROWER RODS, TWIN CP3 483 RWHP, 1008 FT/LBS, ATS 5K 02 SS, LSX BLOCK, 500 HP, WAITING ON BOOST 98 COBRA, EAGLE CRANK AND RODS, 568 RWHP, S-TRIM 02 SS, STOCK, THE SLO HO 08 CTS, POS EFI Live "Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's, you know you wanna hit it but you're afraid of the consequences!" "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams

07-08-2013, 09:22 PM	#66
OldJedi Use the Force Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51, 2018 Porsche GTS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davie, Fl. Posts: 3,862	I owned a black/black 70 SS396 4 Speed. I loved the car but traded it for my first Corvette which led to a lot of other Corvettes. The 70 Chevelle is powerful but it is not a ZL1. The SS simply does not have the handling, braking and finesse of the ZL1. But it does have history and appreciating value. It's value will most likely double in the next ten years. The ZL1 will still be depreciating. If there was a way to negotiate with the wife to convince her of its value and you have a place to keep it inside, try to keep the SS. Don't get me wrong, I know that the ZL1 has over 40 years of technology and the best parts that any car can have without any squeaks, moans or rattles. My 67 Vette as a lot of nostalgia and draws a lot of attention but it does not have the power, brakes and handling of the ZL1. Tracking the ZL1 shows me how good this car really is. There is a place in my life for both cars but the ZL1 always puts a smile on my face. Another alternative might be the 1LE, great handling at a much lower price point and Recaros in 2014. I hope you are able to get and keep both cars. Good Luck. __________________ Walk softly, carry a light saber and drive a ZL1!

07-08-2013, 02:49 PM	#57
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	Simple answer: No

07-08-2013, 05:02 PM	#63
littlecammi Drives: '87 Pontiac Fiero GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 614	Your '70 Chevelle SS looks great, but... ...like someone else said - it's not a super desireable LS6 (or even an LS5) 454. ...and it's an automatic trans - not the more desireable Muncie 4-speed manual. You've already admitted that your 396 Camaro SS is the car to which you are more emotionally attached. But all that said, if the Chevelle is an L78 (375hp 396) then I'd keep it no matter what. If it's just a 325hp or 350hp 396, then sell it for as much as you can and move up to a gen5 Camaro ZL1. Your 396 Camaro SS and a new ZL1 would be a top notch pair to own!

07-08-2013, 05:05 PM	#65
woodbine Drives: 1969 camaro ss 396 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: illinois Posts: 7	I am overwhelmed at everyone's responses. I really appreciate the family atmosphere that this forum has. Thank you

07-08-2013, 10:00 PM	#67
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	If you have another youth car (your '69 Camaro) then it might not be as bad and I would probably consider the ZL1. If it was your only muscle car I would say HELL NO! I can't tell you the number of times people come up to me in my '69 that say I had, brother or dad that had, or I should've never gotten rid of that car. I will say that even though mine isn't a ZL1, I love having both new and old muscle car. ZL1 would just be even more over the top. I hope to be able to afford one some day but never at the cost of me getting rid of my '69 (which I've had mine since I was 16). __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

07-08-2013, 11:43 PM	#68
LimaCharlie Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS - 2004 Silverado Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,989	In terms of value, keep the Chevelle. A restored numbers-matching SS is far more valuable than a ZL1. The Chevelle will just keep appreciating in value. The ZL1 will appreciate in value eventually too but that is YEARS away. If you're looking for a fun car that could be used for daily driver duties (and be reliable), the ZL1 is the obvious choice. It sounds like you have cars being used for daily drivers already so I'd KEEP THE CHEVELLE. __________________ 2011 Summit White Camaro 1SS/RS -6.2 LS3, TR6060, 3.45, G80 2004 Black Silverado 1500 2WD Regular Cab, Short Bed -5.3 LM7, 4L60E, 3.42, G80 2014 White Caprice PPV -6.0 L77, 6L80E, 2.92, G80

07-08-2013, 11:55 PM	#69
Slapshot Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Rochester Hills Posts: 167	The ZL1 will never ever be as valuable as that Chevelle. These 5th gen camaros will never appreciate in value the way that car will. There's simply no comparison between an original muscle car and a newer car of any kind. Those things were built like a tank compared to modern cars. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2

07-09-2013, 01:58 AM	#70
MY CA.ZL1 Drives: 2012 ZL1 #698 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: monterey.ca. Posts: 176	Your choise,but i would not do it First you have a all time beautiful car.Few are left that look this good.On the other hand remember when the 5th gen first came out high demand and people paying over msrp.same thing with the ZL1 first year demand was high with only apox 1900 ZLs made.second year around 8000 zls are made with Some selling under msrp and 2012 selling for around $48000.now the Z-28 is coming out and then the 6th gen.my 2011 ss which i paid 3000 under msrp dropped in value 7500 first year.the same with my ZL.i love my car but you have a one of a kind the will only go up in value.