Greatest of all time (GOAT NFL)

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by 102SS

CB) Charles Woodson

you mean rod woodson?

[sherob]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

But no love for Warren Moon!

Ehhhh... wasn't a huge fan. Really, none of the Oilers' QB's were that great to me...

[Kenny Camaro]

Originally Posted by sherob

Ehhhh... wasn't a huge fan. Really, none of the Oilers' QB's were that great to me...

Moon was very, very good. Dan Pasterini (?) was also very good.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by Kenny Camaro

Moon was very, very good. Dan Pasterini (?) was also very good.

Moon's passing yards record of 70,553

[sherob]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

Moon's passing yards record of 70,553

He threw a lot of yards... great. Show me a ring. He also owns one of the greatest chokes of all time too.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/0...houston-oilers

[Kenny Camaro]

The oilers defense kept them from advancing, not warren moon. Didn't the defense give up a 32 point halftime lead in a playoff game to the Bills with the backup QB Frank Reich at the helm? If the defense can't hold a 32 point lead, that's more of the issue than the QB that got you the lead.

[Kenny Camaro]

Wish the Lions would have got him as a free agent the same year the brought in the horrible Scott Mitchell. Maybe Moon, Barry Sanders and Chris Spielmen all could have gotten their ring together. Oh well,that's the Lions, one playoff victory in the Super Bowl Era.

[sherob]

Originally Posted by Kenny Camaro

The oilers defense kept them from advancing, not warren moon. Didn't the defense give up a 32 point halftime lead in a playoff game to the Bills with the backup QB Frank Reich at the helm? If the defense can't hold a 32 point lead, that's more of the issue than the QB that got you the lead.

Yeah, but who really owns the loss? When you reach the playoffs or SB at that level, who owns the loss as the leader of the team?

Ask Dan Marino what he thinks.

[102SS]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

you mean rod woodson?

Yeah I had a senior moment

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by sherob

He threw a lot of yards... great. Show me a ring. He also owns one of the greatest chokes of all time too.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/0...houston-oilers

There are a lot of Great QB's that don't have a Ring! and then you have a Doofus like Trent Dilfer that has one. A Ring does not equate to Greatness

[sherob]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

There are a lot of Great QB's that don't have a Ring! and then you have a Doofus like Trent Dilfer that has one. A Ring does not equate to Greatness

Warren Moon... 20 years
W/L* Cmp% Yds TD Int
102-101 57.95 70553 435 310
(*94 CFL games not added, no W/L record I can find)

now compare that to, say...

Peyton Manning... 16 years
W/L Cmp% Yds TD Int
186-79 65.3 71940 539 251

[Kenny Camaro]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

There are a lot of Great QB's that don't have a Ring! and then you have a Doofus like Trent Dilfer that has one. A Ring does not equate to Greatness

Add Brad Johnson to that 'Doofus' list also!

[Kenny Camaro]

Originally Posted by sherob

Warren Moon... 20 years
W/L* Cmp% Yds TD Int
102-101 57.95 70553 435 310
(*94 CFL games not added, no W/L record I can find)

now compare that to, say...

Peyton Manning... 16 years
W/L Cmp% Yds TD Int
186-79 65.3 71940 539 251

What's Manning playoff record?

[Kenny Camaro]

Originally Posted by sherob

Yeah, but who really owns the loss? When you reach the playoffs or SB at that level, who owns the loss as the leader of the team?

Ask Dan Marino what he thinks.

Ask Dan Marino if he would have had Dilfers or Johnsons defenses if he would have won a superbowl, or rather how many would he have won?!