[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Based on this screenshot, your transmission control module (TCM) isn't unlocked, and you only see the settings that are stored in the ECM. The A10 will not be tunable until you get it unlocked.

I paid for it to be unlocked, so not sure if that is the stock tune file but that is the one he gave me that fixed the low speed drivability.

But he did say the trans tune was locked and I wouldn't see it.

So not sure if that means it was unlocked and he locked it again I figure due to trade secrets regarding trans tune dunno, but always some kind of non compete somewhere in every industry.

You think maybe they just replaced the T93 TCM with one that was reprogrammed? Like on HP Tuner site? https://www.hptuners.com/product/gm-t93-tcm-services/ I assume that would explain why it is locked?

[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

I was just saying what I said might be misconstrued as me not being receptive I am, and I take what everyone says to heart. I just didn't want my response to be mistaken for being ungrateful.

My tuner said he locks the tune, so I wouldn't be able to see the trans tuning he did. And I don't know enough about HP Tuners to dabble much beyond changing tire size.

1.86 is the best 60ft I've had thus far, before the cam and rebuild I was at 1.91+

I am trying to keep myself somewhat grounded and figure that even though some people see 0.5 sec off their times with drag radials that what works for one person can be different for another. I was expecting a 11.7 which I got, and last time at the drag strip some indication of consistency since I ran a 11.7 and 11.67 back to back. I figure the rest is me being inexperienced trying different things to drop the number more. I think it might rain tomorrow so I wont' be able to try new things tomorrow but maybe next wednesday I'll get the chance.

Whoa, he locks the tune? I have a very low opinion of guys like that. Is he willing to 'touch up' the tune, considering that you've already paid him a LOT of money for the tune? Because I seriously think that his tune needs some work.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

I paid for it to be unlocked, so not sure if that is the stock tune file but that is the one he gave me that fixed the low speed drivability.

But he did say the trans tune was locked and I wouldn't see it.

So not sure if that means it was unlocked and he locked it again I figure due to trade secrets regarding trans tune dunno, but always some kind of non compete somewhere in every industry.

You think maybe they just replaced the T93 TCM with one that was reprogrammed? Like on HP Tuner site? https://www.hptuners.com/product/gm-t93-tcm-services/ I assume that would explain why it is locked?

Here are the main pages (an older version of) HP Tuners showed for my unlocked A8, with several subcategories under almost every page. You should see a similar, if not broader, set of tunable categories for your A10 if it's really unlocked.

Now if the shop locked the tune, you might not be able to see them, but then one of the problems with this is you just have to take it on blind faith what, if anything, they tuned about your transmission... as a contrast, my car was tuned by Jannetty Racing, not exactly a noname shop (their wait times were in the multi-month range even back then), and Ted didn't hide anything from me or lock the tune. I can even look at the history and see what he changed on which day. Obviously, I do not abuse the royal treatment I received from them and try to screw them over.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Whoa, he locks the tune? I have a very low opinion of guys like that. Is he willing to 'touch up' the tune, considering that you've already paid him a LOT of money for the tune? Because I seriously think that his tune needs some work.

Yes he's willing to adjust the tune.

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Here are the main pages (an older version of) HP Tuners showed for my unlocked A8, with several subcategories under almost every page. You should see a similar, if not broader, set of tunable categories for your A10 if it's really unlocked.

Now if the shop locked the tune, you might not be able to see them, but then one of the problems with this is you just have to take it on blind faith what, if anything, they tuned about your transmission... as a contrast, my car was tuned by Jannetty Racing, not exactly a noname shop (their wait times were in the multi-month range even back then), and Ted didn't hide anything from me or lock the tune. I can even look at the history and see what he changed on which day. Obviously, I do not abuse the royal treatment I received from them and try to screw them over.

Ya I don't see anything like that. So guess it is locked.

[Dynamical]

Hey Fluke I'm happy you got your car back and already ripping down the 1/4

Do you know what your race weight was or a close estimate? How much gas was in tank? When you stage the car do you try to stage shallow?

[jlaudio11]

The tcm can be unlocked and you still wouldn’t see the tune in it. It’s part of how hptuners is fooling the rest of the system that the tcm is still stock. It will always show stock calibration settings when read even if the calibration is different. From the picture above it looks like only the ecm was read and not the tcm also.

[6spdhyperblue]

Can you post a log file?

Based on the video looks and sounds like the trans tune is stock and likely not unlocked

It should be shifting 6800 minimum.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

Hey Fluke I'm happy you got your car back and already ripping down the 1/4

Do you know what your race weight was or a close estimate? How much gas was in tank? When you stage the car do you try to stage shallow?

Full weight for sure. Haven't done any reductions yet. About 1/2 a tank. Honestly not sure what the difference is between shallow staging and anything else. I've heard the term but don't really know what it means.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Can you post a log file?

Based on the video looks and sounds like the trans tune is stock and likely not unlocked

It should be shifting 6800 minimum.

Well I'm not to sure about that because the cam tops out at 7000, and there's always overplay in the shift I know on the 3rd and 4th gear it shifts at 6500 but doesn't hit over 6600.

I've seen on the old logs I made the shift points as others mentioned 6200-6500 depending on which gear it shifts from.

And my power curve indicates its close to 300rpm higher than my peak. Which is close to the 500rpm the one person was talking about but rather or not another 200 rpm is going to change anything not sure.

I will have to make a new log file because the software my tuner is using is version 4.11 and I did the log in 5.x so he could never view it. And I apparently already deleted the log files I made from last sunday since I have to remake them in version 4.11.

Actually wait, I do have the 5.x version logs. In my email...

See attached...

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Well I'm not to sure about that because the cam tops out at 7000, and there's always overplay in the shift I know on the 3rd and 4th gear it shifts at 6500 but doesn't hit over 6600.

I've seen on the old logs I made the shift points as others mentioned 6200-6500 depending on which gear it shifts from.

And my power curve indicates its close to 300rpm higher than my peak. Which is close to the 500rpm the one person was talking about but rather or not another 200 rpm is going to change anything not sure.

I will have to make a new log file because the software my tuner is using is version 4.11 and I did the log in 5.x so he could never view it. And I apparently already deleted the log files I made from last sunday since I have to remake them in version 4.11.

Actually wait, I do have the 5.x version logs. In my email...

See attached...

My old m6 blue car shifted at 6800 with a stock cam.the logs would tag 7200 on the fuel cut nls. You have been able to successfully adjust the shift points?

I have many many hours tuning an a10 car on the street and track. according to the video shift points look dead stock there

I’ll look at the logs when I get to my laptop

[6spdhyperblue]

I would be shocked if the car wouldn’t pick up another 2mph shifting at 6600 for the 1-2 and 7k for the 2-3 and later

Unless the valve train is not up to snuff I don’t see the downside to reving it out

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

My old m6 blue car shifted at 6800 with a stock cam.the logs would tag 7200 on the fuel cut nls. You have been able to successfully adjust the shift points?

I have many many hours tuning an a10 car on the street and track. according to the video shift points look dead stock there

I’ll look at the logs when I get to my laptop

I am not sure anymore tbh. I was told they would need to tune the trans for the cam, but if you are saying they are stock shift points. I dunno anymore.

Not sure about the valve train. Sent you work order info in PM

[American thunda]

I think the shift points need to be raised a little more and i would reduce the Tq Mgt in the shifts. I Know tuners like to play it safe with the trans but you will pick up A LOT if the Tq MGt was reduced. I just got back from the track and Picked up 4MPH and .2 in the 1/8 by reducing tq mgt and messing with injection timing.

[FlukeSS]

Well either way I am probably going to the strip later today. Get some new fresh logs.

Fixed TC issue with the new front tires
Will try launching from idle
See if anything changes