[Sledgehammer70]

My guess....

1SS
0-60: 4.5 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.4-12.5 at 113/114 mph
Lateral G's: 0.99-1.02
Braking distance 60-0 mph: 113-115 feet

2SS
0-60: 4.6 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.5-12.6 at 113/114 mph
Lateral G's: 0.97-1.01
Braking distance 60-0 mph: 116-119 feet

[Blackdevil77]

I think your 60-0 braking is off. The 5th gen Camaro SS stops from 60 in a shorter distance than that. Even if they carried over the same brakes, there should be an improvement on this new car. Everything else, I more or less agree with.

Here's an interesting question. How big of a difference do you think the A8 will have on 0-60 and quarter mile times over the manual?

[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I think your 60-0 braking is off. The 5th gen Camaro SS stops from 60 in a shorter distance than that. Even if they carried over the same brakes, there should be an improvement on this new car. Everything else, I more or less agree with.

Here's an interesting question. How big of a difference do you think the A8 will have on 0-60 and quarter mile times over the manual?

Oh really?

Both a Chevy Camaro SS with the 1LE option package and a ZL1 convertible came to a stop from 60 mph in 107 feet, while a ZL1 coupe managed to do it in 110 feet. Naturally, the track-ready Z/28 and its carbon-ceramic brakes needed just 103 feet to stop from 60 mph.

In the Edmunds test they used an SS with 6 piston Brembo breaks. The new SS uses 4 Piston with smaller rotors. While they will be good, we're not going to see better breaking than the 2015 1LE setup. Maybe that 200lbs weight loss will help, but I don't see stock 1SS braking numbers as low as you outlined.

Crap the Z/28 with like a $12K+ breaking system setup can't stop in under 103 feet.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Oh really?



In the Edmunds test they used an SS with 6 piston Brembo breaks. The new SS uses 4 Piston with smaller rotors. While they will be good, we're not going to see better breaking than the 2015 1LE setup. Maybe that 200lbs weight loss will help, but I don't see stock 1SS braking numbers as low as you outlined.

Crap the Z/28 with like a $12K+ breaking system setup can't stop in under 103 feet.

Wow, I was looking at the motor trend stopping distances. They got different distance and times on their tests than edmunds did. Motor Trend got a 112 ft stop from 60 for a 2010 Camaro SS. Judging by edmunds times, I'd say you're right.

6 piston breaks are an option, right?

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

If they were to make the Michelin Cup 2 tires an option, I would definitely check that box

Amen to that!

[Rocco70]

I think just like the price 1/4 mile times will be a disappointment too

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Rocco70

I think just like the price 1/4 mile times will be a disappointment too

You are like that annoying girl in grade school that complains about anything and everything.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by Rocco70

I think just like the price 1/4 mile times will be a disappointment too

[Blackdevil77]

Lol, I must have missed something. How would it be possible for the 1/4 mile times to be disappointing in a Camaro that is both lighter AND more powerful? It's obviously gonna be an improvement over the 5th gen. By how much remains to be seen, but I'd bet anything it will be an improvement.

[EE7]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Lol, I must have missed something. How would it be possible for the 1/4 mile times to be disappointing in a Camaro that is both lighter AND more powerful? It's obviously gonna be an improvement over the 5th gen. By how much remains to be seen, but I'd bet anything it will be an improvement.

Exactly. There are so many people on this forum that think the new Camaro is going to have the same or worse performance that the Gen 5. It just doesn't make sense.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Rocco70

I think just like the price 1/4 mile times will be a disappointment too

Why do you hate this car?

If the stock 5th gen is capable of doing 12.6 - 12.7 stock at its max potential and optimal conditions, I just don't see any logical reason why less weight, more power and superior torque curve, and an 8-speed can't shave AT LEAST 2 or three tenths off that.

I don't know what the GM advertised 1/4 mile times are on the 5th gen SS, but I'm guessing they are 12.9 - 13 flat? So for this car I can see their advertised times as mid 12s at least, and in the hands of owners we will see low 12s....100%.

The ONLY negative I can see, are the run flats on the SS, which likely have a stiffer sidewall which will equate to more difficult launches.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

My guess....

1SS
0-60: 4.5 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.4-12.5 at 113/114 mph
Lateral G's: 0.99-1.02
Braking distance 60-0 mph: 113-115 feet

2SS
0-60: 4.6 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.5-12.6 at 113/114 mph
Lateral G's: 0.97-1.01
Braking distance 60-0 mph: 116-119 feet

Agree, only I suspect lateral G's to be less spectacular than what you're guessing.

[Cipher21]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Why do you hate this car?

If the stock 5th gen is capable of doing 12.6 - 12.7 stock at its max potential and optimal conditions, I just don't see any logical reason why less weight, more power and superior torque curve, and an 8-speed can't shave AT LEAST 2 or three tenths off that.

I don't know what the GM advertised 1/4 mile times are on the 5th gen SS, but I'm guessing they are 12.9 - 13 flat? So for this car I can see their advertised times as mid 12s at least, and in the hands of owners we will see low 12s....100%.

The ONLY negative I can see, are the run flats on the SS, which likely have a stiffer sidewall which will equate to more difficult launches.

^ I don't understand the hate either. As far as the tires go I wonder if dealers would do a trade on site I REALLY don't want them. I would do straight trade for the GMAX AS-03 cheap all season tire.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

Agree, only I suspect lateral G's to be less spectacular than what you're guessing.

5th gen 1LE put out 0.98g on the skip pad. I'd expect the RFTs not to be as sticky but the car should be close in range if power is not the reason it is faster than a 1LE. I don't know it will exceed 1g though.