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jkof08 · 10-15-2013, 10:32 AM

ok so i have the below mods in the sig and i raced a stock 2013 mustang 5.0, he beat me, i want to know what my issue was. i had a quicker 60 ft, 330ft and 1/8th, then he had a quicker 1000ft and 1/4 mile. why is this, shouldnt i pull in the top end bc of my mods? this makes me wonder should i have the engine cleaned out and add a catch can or is it something else? it was tuned by jannetty. any help would be appriciated Im number 17 on the left.

Bo White · 10-15-2013, 10:59 AM

Well he did leave the line before you did and he was already a 1/2mph faster than you in the 1/8th so you wasn't going to catch him. My GXP had about the same mods and I ran 12.80 so are about right. The new 5.0s are no joke. They make great power and are 400+lbs lighter.

ChevyCowboy · 10-15-2013, 11:18 AM

I thought you should have had him too, my 11 ls3 m6 with only longtubes and no cats will out pull my buddys new 5.0 m6

Denis · 10-15-2013, 11:33 AM

damn...close race though

newmoon · 10-15-2013, 11:34 AM

Nothing at all surprising about his e/t or mph. A properly driven and launched 5.0 should be capable of 12:70s-12:80s. I don't think you did anything wrong it's just the 5.0 is a more efficient 1/4 mile car than the SS in most races. When I had my SS I had similar mods to yours (LS3) I got tired of being beaten by stock 5.0s as well. I upped my game and went for a cam, LT, DRs setup. The problem I had then was that lightly modded (tuned & DRs) 5.0s were still beating me.

What tires were you running, did you try to adjust launch rpm, it seems with a 3500 stall you should have a better 60'

vroomapunk · 10-15-2013, 11:54 AM

How was your launch? I still feel you could have done better (not knowing track conditions). Stall, gears, tune, intake, headers on ur car can get a quicker time than that.

I pulled a 12.91 (109 trap speed 1.96 60ft) with just headers, intake, and tune, in humid, wet, and very hot track conditions, and not a perfect launch too. Stock tires, L99.

You adding gears and a stall, and cooler temps this time of the year, should give you more than a .06th of a second.

Your car is capable of better times, based on what I did with mine alone.

I would think my trap speed being the same or higher than yours, means you should have been pulling more top end, might be something in your tune, or like you said, somethings dirty.

vroomapunk · 10-15-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jims73z

so you gave him .18 head start and lost by .03 so you were quicker.

RT doesnt effect ET, unless im mistaken.

Nightmare2012 · 10-15-2013, 12:03 PM

These new 5.0s are no slouch and if not running at perfect conditions they will take you more often than not

jkof08 · 10-15-2013, 12:03 PM

21' inch wheel option street tires 285's in the back 255's in the front launching at 1900 any harder gets wheel spin. The track was well preped for a private event do it was sticky I had glue on my tires in the pits

K32 Camaro · 10-15-2013, 12:10 PM

The 21"s are the issue then. Everything else checks out.

vroomapunk · 10-15-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by K32 Camaro

The 21"s are the issue then. Everything else checks out.

Right

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Originally Posted by jkof08

21' inch wheel option street tires 285's in the back 255's in the front launching at 1900 any harder gets wheel spin. The track was well preped for a private event do it was sticky I had glue on my tires in the pits

Sounds like traction isnt a problem, especially since you were able to launch at 1900 with street tires with that stall.

21's are bad news, and will hurt your 60'. I still think you could have done better, but 20's vs 21's in this race could have let you edge him out and get the win.

litle88 · 10-15-2013, 12:35 PM

Something isint right, my L99 full boltons, vararam, kooks 1 7/8's, 3" catless Flowmaster cat back and stock converter made 12.7's on stock pirellis. I'd say yea ditch the 21's as well.

jman17 · 10-15-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vroomapunk

RT doesnt effect ET, unless im mistaken.

It doesn't effect ET's but he did leave on him, therefore, he would have beat him.

vroomapunk · 10-15-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jman17

It doesn't effect ET's but he did leave on him, therefore, he would have beat him.

Right

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10-15-2013, 10:32 AM	#1
jkof08 Drives: Black 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Valdosta Posts: 294	12.843 and i got beat by a stock 5.0 ok so i have the below mods in the sig and i raced a stock 2013 mustang 5.0, he beat me, i want to know what my issue was. i had a quicker 60 ft, 330ft and 1/8th, then he had a quicker 1000ft and 1/4 mile. why is this, shouldnt i pull in the top end bc of my mods? this makes me wonder should i have the engine cleaned out and add a catch can or is it something else? it was tuned by jannetty. any help would be appriciated Im number 17 on the left. Attached Images __________________ C.A.I. CAI, FlowMaster Pro Series, 1LE Strut Brace, Ported Throttle Body, Vengeance Tune, JRE Scoop, MSD Wires, 3.70 Gears, Stainless Works LT Headers and Hi Flow Cats, Pro Torque 3500 stall, LS3 Conversion Stage 2 TSP Port & Polished Heads, Kaotik CAM. 18x10 Forgestar F14 wrapped in 305/45/18 MT Street ET II's 12.068 @ 119.9 1.9 60ft (on 20' DR's with a VVT CAM)

10-15-2013, 10:59 AM	#2
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,017	Well he did leave the line before you did and he was already a 1/2mph faster than you in the 1/8th so you wasn't going to catch him. My GXP had about the same mods and I ran 12.80 so are about right. The new 5.0s are no joke. They make great power and are 400+lbs lighter. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

10-15-2013, 11:18 AM	#3
ChevyCowboy Lining Up! Drives: 2011 Camaro 1SS, Summit white, M6, Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Moncton, New Brunswick Canada Posts: 103	I thought you should have had him too, my 11 ls3 m6 with only longtubes and no cats will out pull my buddys new 5.0 m6 __________________ 11 Camaro 1SS - Summit White - Black Stripes - 6.2 - M6 - Hurst Short Throw Shifter - Sun Roof - Rally Sport - Dynatech LT - ORY - Night Fury Cam - 1LE Sway Bars -

10-15-2013, 11:33 AM	#4
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	damn...close race though __________________

10-15-2013, 11:34 AM	#5
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	Nothing at all surprising about his e/t or mph. A properly driven and launched 5.0 should be capable of 12:70s-12:80s. I don't think you did anything wrong it's just the 5.0 is a more efficient 1/4 mile car than the SS in most races. When I had my SS I had similar mods to yours (LS3) I got tired of being beaten by stock 5.0s as well. I upped my game and went for a cam, LT, DRs setup. The problem I had then was that lightly modded (tuned & DRs) 5.0s were still beating me. What tires were you running, did you try to adjust launch rpm, it seems with a 3500 stall you should have a better 60' __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

10-15-2013, 11:54 AM	#6
vroomapunk [COTW 5/12/14] Drives: 2012 CRT NF Cammed 2SS/RS For Sale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NOLA Posts: 6,115 View My Garage	How was your launch? I still feel you could have done better (not knowing track conditions). Stall, gears, tune, intake, headers on ur car can get a quicker time than that. I pulled a 12.91 (109 trap speed 1.96 60ft) with just headers, intake, and tune, in humid, wet, and very hot track conditions, and not a perfect launch too. Stock tires, L99. You adding gears and a stall, and cooler temps this time of the year, should give you more than a .06th of a second. Your car is capable of better times, based on what I did with mine alone. I would think my trap speed being the same or higher than yours, means you should have been pulling more top end, might be something in your tune, or like you said, somethings dirty. __________________

10-15-2013, 12:03 PM	#8
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	These new 5.0s are no slouch and if not running at perfect conditions they will take you more often than not

10-15-2013, 12:10 PM	#10
K32 Camaro V8 lounge member #5 Drives: 12 2SS Synergy Camaro, 05 PontiacG6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,301	The 21"s are the issue then. Everything else checks out.

10-15-2013, 12:35 PM	#12
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Something isint right, my L99 full boltons, vararam, kooks 1 7/8's, 3" catless Flowmaster cat back and stock converter made 12.7's on stock pirellis. I'd say yea ditch the 21's as well. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.