OK Dodge Sucks ...GM is Great - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

macwest · 09-10-2015, 12:57 PM

Sorry need to vent. Bought a certified new dodge challenger 2015 "Like new condition only 3K miles still brand new" and when I asked on accidents I was told it was never in an accident. That was a joke. Suppose to be a carry over for me till 2016 camaros hit then wife would have her new dodge and I would have a new camaro. This is going like NOT.

Mistakes...Bought it at night, first mistake. Dealer told me was never in an accident, believed dealer second mistake. Bought a dodge, third mistake. Now I have a POC Dodge with 5K needed in body work on passenger side. The reason it did not stand out is dealer tried to fix it with paint less dent removal and made it just harder to see. Called FCA all they did was argue for dealer. Now I am on to BBB, DMV and a lawyer. Who needs the hassle?

Feel like screeming. Thanks you for listening.

motorhead · 09-10-2015, 01:13 PM

So why is it Dodge's fault that you didn't do your homework before you purchased the car? If your dealer was dishonest then ,once again, why is it Dodge's fault? There are dishonest Chevy dealers selling covered up wreck victim Chevy's too. Does that make GM suck too?

ssrs2lt · 09-10-2015, 01:25 PM

I know what ya mean, I was looking at a super bee charger and the dealer never admitted it was in a wreck..honestly I've never had a good dodge, jeep, Chrysler dealer experience..I've been to multiple in multiple states. I think it's a mindset. I guess that's why i always end up being a GM guy..people skills and honesty matters

macwest · 09-10-2015, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhead

So why is it Dodge's fault that you didn't do your homework before you purchased the car? If your dealer was dishonest then ,once again, why is it Dodge's fault? There are dishonest Chevy dealers selling covered up wreck victim Chevy's too. Does that make GM suck too?

Ok maybe I should change the title to The dodge dealer ripped me off....

Never had that issue with any GM dealers in Nothern Cali. As for FCA i just expected a little more on their customer care side and I have always said the dealerships are the face of the manufacture for the auto industry.

FCA says they have great customer care and if that was the case they sure as heck could say great we have an issue you don't trust the dealer how about we act as a third party and select a location under us and have it evaluated. Instead they just they will log the complaint but there is nothing they can do.

Bongos2U · 09-10-2015, 01:29 PM

http://www.vehiclehistory.gov/index.html

DRKS1D3 · 09-10-2015, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhead

So why is it Dodge's fault that you didn't do your homework before you purchased the car? If your dealer was dishonest then ,once again, why is it Dodge's fault? There are dishonest Chevy dealers selling covered up wreck victim Chevy's too. Does that make GM suck too?

Exactly. You did business with a dishonest dealer, but you also did not check the car over that well before you bought it. You didn't notice $5,000 worth of body damage at the dealership? Helen Keller...is that you?

Good luck OP.

macwest · 09-10-2015, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

Exactly. You did business with a dishonest dealer, but you also did not check the car over that well before you bought it. You didn't notice $5,000 worth of body damage at the dealership? Helen Keller...is that you?

Good luck OP.

NO, I really thought on the fender it was dodge making crappy cars not that it was in an accident. Also they did painless dent repair on the car making it harder to see. Also, I asked if it was in an a accident and they said NO. Should I not expect a honest answer to my question or am I just nuts to believe i should?

macwest · 09-10-2015, 03:26 PM

Update After BBB called them they fully apologized and offered to take it back or fully fix it. Thank you BBB

ssrs2lt · 09-10-2015, 05:22 PM

Nice glad for ya, sometimes we all get tricked

rocket403 · 09-11-2015, 09:27 AM

Hope it all works out dealer got caught trying to pull a fast one.

BMR Sales · 09-11-2015, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macwest

NO, I really thought on the fender it was dodge making crappy cars not that it was in an accident. Also they did painless dent repair on the car making it harder to see. Also, I asked if it was in an a accident and they said NO. Should I not expect a honest answer to my question or am I just nuts to believe i should?

Should have asked for a CarFax Report - every Dealer can pull one up! It's possible your Salesman had no knowledge of an accident, that's where a CarFax comes in handy.

KMPrenger · 09-11-2015, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhead

So why is it Dodge's fault that you didn't do your homework before you purchased the car? If your dealer was dishonest then ,once again, why is it Dodge's fault? There are dishonest Chevy dealers selling covered up wreck victim Chevy's too. Does that make GM suck too?

EHH????

So are you really faulting the OP for this? Your telling me, if you went to buy a nice new and slightly used car, and the dealership said NO ACCIDENTS and it turned out later that the car had accidents, that you'd feel it was YOUR own fault?

Not a chance.

Should the OP have requested a carfax, or looked over the car more? Sure. It is likely that he could have prevented this.

But here is the bottom line. Dealer said no accidents. They were wrong...end of story. As a consumer, we trust the dealer to be honest. We shouldn't have to feel like we need to do extra digging just b/c every dealer tries to screw us over. If they really said no accidents, well then they are wrong, and good for BBB getting involved and prompting them to purchase the car back.

enzia35 · 09-11-2015, 11:41 AM

Glad the dealer is taking it back.

LBreezie · 09-11-2015, 12:52 PM

Dealer name so we can blacklist them?

09-10-2015, 12:57 PM	#1
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	OK Dodge Sucks ...GM is Great Sorry need to vent. Bought a certified new dodge challenger 2015 "Like new condition only 3K miles still brand new" and when I asked on accidents I was told it was never in an accident. That was a joke. Suppose to be a carry over for me till 2016 camaros hit then wife would have her new dodge and I would have a new camaro. This is going like NOT. Mistakes...Bought it at night, first mistake. Dealer told me was never in an accident, believed dealer second mistake. Bought a dodge, third mistake. Now I have a POC Dodge with 5K needed in body work on passenger side. The reason it did not stand out is dealer tried to fix it with paint less dent removal and made it just harder to see. Called FCA all they did was argue for dealer. Now I am on to BBB, DMV and a lawyer. Who needs the hassle? Feel like screeming. Thanks you for listening. __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

09-10-2015, 01:25 PM	#3
ssrs2lt Drives: too many Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: oh va pa ma tx Posts: 3,046	I know what ya mean, I was looking at a super bee charger and the dealer never admitted it was in a wreck..honestly I've never had a good dodge, jeep, Chrysler dealer experience..I've been to multiple in multiple states. I think it's a mindset. I guess that's why i always end up being a GM guy..people skills and honesty matters __________________

09-10-2015, 03:26 PM	#8
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	Update After BBB called them they fully apologized and offered to take it back or fully fix it. Thank you BBB __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

09-10-2015, 05:22 PM	#9
ssrs2lt Drives: too many Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: oh va pa ma tx Posts: 3,046	Nice glad for ya, sometimes we all get tricked __________________ Last edited by ssrs2lt; 09-11-2015 at 04:54 AM.

09-11-2015, 11:41 AM	#13
enzia35 Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3,450	Glad the dealer is taking it back. __________________ '16 Camaro 1SS '18 Miata GT Gone: '01 Camaro, '14 Camaro, '90 Miata

09-10-2015, 01:13 PM	#2
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	So why is it Dodge's fault that you didn't do your homework before you purchased the car? If your dealer was dishonest then ,once again, why is it Dodge's fault? There are dishonest Chevy dealers selling covered up wreck victim Chevy's too. Does that make GM suck too?

09-10-2015, 01:29 PM	#5
Bongos2U Drives: Hopefully 6th gen Camaro Join Date: May 2015 Location: Socal Posts: 586	http://www.vehiclehistory.gov/index.html

09-11-2015, 09:27 AM	#10
rocket403 Drives: 80 Cutlass 403, 2010 FF RT Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 921	Hope it all works out dealer got caught trying to pull a fast one.

09-11-2015, 12:52 PM	#14
LBreezie Drives: 2012 Camaro 45th anniversary Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: PA Posts: 1,027 View My Garage	Dealer name so we can blacklist them?