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Old 01-26-2020, 03:03 AM   #1
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Exclamation 1LE Vs SS

I have a 2015 2SS 1LE cat delete and drop in k&n filter 410 whp

My friend got a 2010 2SS manual with airaid cai, 1 3/4 LT headers and xpipe. 410 whp.

Same dyno same tuner.

Rolling race 40 mph I thought i got this. He put 2 cars lengths on me though!!!!

Same driver skills.

What's going on!!!!??
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:37 AM   #2
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Did you drop a gear when you took off?
Headers do make a difference plus I don’t think you have 410 whp with those mods
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Old 01-26-2020, 07:01 AM   #3
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1LE, both manual. Well both in the same dyno and same tuner
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Old 01-26-2020, 10:18 AM   #4
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Dyno print outs could be helpful to look at. Are those corrected numbers? How many torques? Weather was probably completely different on the two dyno runs.

He could have more torque and more average power than you do, peak number is only part of the story, and since he has LTH that would make some sense.

Did you try the rolls from different speeds? 1LE has longer, close ratio 1st to 3rd gears for road course work, and a 3.91 r&p ratio to help it come back up to similar to SS acceleration, so something weird could be going on there.

You guys may be shifting differently too...switch cars for the next comparison run.
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Old 01-26-2020, 11:15 AM   #5
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I ran a friend of mine as well who had a 2010 SS LS3 with a CAI, no tune. No matter where we ran from, gear or mph wise he would always pull me by at least 2 car lengths. We never ran from a dig though. If you look at 1/4 mile times for both vehicles the SS is usually 2 tenths quicker than the 1LE. It’s the way the tranny is geared in our cars, they are not built for straight track. Now look at times for our 1LE at VIR raceway vs the SS. If I remember correctly we are 9 seconds quicker around that track.
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Old 04-13-2020, 02:39 PM   #6
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This is an interesting situation. That's a big difference.
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:31 AM   #7
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The 1le has no advantage with the 3.91s. The trans ratios are different between the 1le & the ss. The 3.91s were added to the 1le to bring the overall ratios back equal to the ss with 3.45s. The only gear that the 1le has the advantage gearing wise is 4th. If you look at overall ratios (trans gear ratio multiplied be rear gear ratio) you will see that they are almost identical. Not knocking 1le's at all, just wanted to clarify as to why the 1le's got the 3.91s from the factory. 3.91s with an ss trans is fun.
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:16 PM   #8
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1le's come with those big ass 285's up front and a heavy ass cast wheel to pack it in, in drag racing that is not helping.
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:29 PM   #9
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I test drove a 2013 ss manual back in 2014. I don't know, but my 1LE feels much faster than that car ever did.
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:36 PM   #10
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1le's come with those big ass 285's up front and a heavy ass cast wheel to pack it in, in drag racing that is not helping.
Forged not cast and they weight a few pounds lighter than the SS wheels from the post on here.
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:24 AM   #11
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Well, my car was having an issue, used to pull timing due to knock.
My tires were shot so he had the advantage. Was planning to redo the race but he sold his car.
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