08-28-2017, 12:55 PM | #1 |
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Someone please simply a brake and rotor change for me.
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I need some insight on what I need (parts-wise) and what to expect during a rotor and brake change on a '15 SS. I have bookmarked R1 Concepts rotors, with Hawk pads. I REFUSE to pay $1200 per axle for a Chevy dealer to install GM pads and rotors. Three thousand dollars for brakes and rotors is asinine, I will sell the car before I ever pay that much. That being said, I do expect to pay ~$500 for 4 rotors, and probably another ~$200 for pads, then whatever labor costs. The shop near me is willing to do them, but he said "it can get expensive very fast". Here's what I don't understand. How is it not as straight forward as taking off the old rotors and brakes, and putting the new ones on? I heard some discussion about 'torque to yield' bolts, something about replacing them? I have no idea what they are, if I HAVE to replace them, if the dealer would replace them in a routine rotor/pad change, etc. I want to go to this shop with the parts in hand and know what needs done so if they feed me misinformation, I can call them on it. Also, BALLPARK what are we talking as far as Labor Hours for 1 axle to do rotor and pad?
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08-28-2017, 02:19 PM | #2 | |
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08-28-2017, 02:22 PM | #3 | |
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Not only that, where do I get new caliper bolts? I think that is what I was hearing. So I would need: Rotors, Pads, Caliper bolts - and thats it (if i take it to a shop for install)?
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08-28-2017, 03:16 PM | #4 | |
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As far as tools you'll need (taken from DIY thread): 1/2" drive breaker bar with 3"-5" extension 1/2" drive ratchet 18mm and 22mm Socket Torque Wrench 1/8" pin punch and hammer T30 torx bit wire coat hanger floor jack and jack stand(s) Optional - 2 C-clamps thread for reference: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135887 Good luck if you give it a shot! Very easy car to work on.
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08-28-2017, 03:34 PM | #5 |
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Watch the video, do one side at a time. Take your time. You will be an expert by the time you finish the second one and wonder why anybody goes to a shop for this work. You will spend less for all the tools needed than the labor for someone else to do it once.
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08-28-2017, 08:00 PM | #6 |
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Yeah, there are you tube videos....most likely a diy on this site. Also, you can buy stock stuff pretty cheap via one of the GM parts outlets online. Even auto parts stores have pretty good parts at decent prices. You have to do some of the research yourself. If you are able to come here online and post...I'm pretty sure you are smart enough to use the net for research.
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08-29-2017, 02:35 PM | #7 | |
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09-06-2017, 02:34 PM | #8 |
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There wasn't one video on youtube where they replaced the caliper bolts and through reading a bunch of threads on brakes, some dealers replace them and some do not. These bolts are torque to yield bolts and not recommended to be re-used as they can fail and not hold as good or back out. Y
You may also need 3 x 1/2 inch course thread bolts to screw in the back side to break the rotor free of the hub. Last edited by Northeast16SS; 09-06-2017 at 02:46 PM. |
09-06-2017, 10:33 PM | #9 |
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Klowny's Youtube video on the Camaro brake pad/rotor change is kind of cheesey, but very straight forward and lots of good info. Watch it and you can do the same.
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Changing brakes!
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Sort of in the same boat as you, I have decided to upgrade my entire brakes system. I own a 2014 2LT/RS that has less than 10K on the clock. My very first Camaro in life (over 66 years) and have never applied a wrench to one. However, I have spent a fair number of evenings doing "advanced searches" throughout the DIY & brake sections. I have been able to print off "step by step directions, complete list of required tools as well as every single part number/source needed. I am still looking for the Brembo calipers/rotors, once I find a low mileage set I will without question tackle the job. I am going to change the master cylinder, dust shields, rotors, calipers, lines as well as all associated hardware. Chevrolet actually makes a kit that has everything single part that I need, however, that kit it like 4K, can't begin to imagine what the install fee would be, I bet the entire bill would be near 8K. After some extensive searches I have found I will be able to do this job for less than 2K and that is with upgrading the brake to caliper lines with stainless steel. Having read the directions at least ten time I believe I could do the job right this minute without the directions. There is no question you "CAN" do it and will feel so good about the job when finished and know a lot more about your ride. "Go for it" Larry |
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09-07-2017, 09:48 AM | #11 |
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I did Goodrich SS lines, R1 Concepts slotted rotors and OEM pads, and bled the system in a few hours, taking my time. All are easy jobs, and there are plenty of model/year specific video instructions out there to help you. Tackle it.
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09-07-2017, 12:45 PM | #12 |
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I don't see anything wrong with an upgrade, but the OEM brakes seem pretty damn good to me as-is. Other than swapping out to a pad set without the roller skates so I can carry a donut in the trunk, these cars stop very well and the brakes seem to wear well.
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09-07-2017, 02:11 PM | #13 |
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Are you replacing because of mileage or performance? I would just swap in new pads, these brakes are great as is
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09-08-2017, 08:18 AM | #14 |
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Does GM make a pad kit for the SS Brembos that don't have the roller skates for the front, or do you have to go aftermarket for pads?
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