04-05-2011, 11:35 AM | #197 | |
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Actually, I comprehended what you were saying pages ago and the answer is still the same...you grenaded the powertrain portion of your warranty the minute you tuned the ECM...and you knew it... You admit in this quote that (in hindsight) you should have replaced the oil pump...did the person performing the mods ever mention this as something you should do "while you were there"? |
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04-05-2011, 01:54 PM | #198 |
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04-05-2011, 07:47 PM | #199 | ||
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When the modifications were done on my car, the oil pump was not a 'common' issue and the modifications that I made would not normally require a higher volume or velocity pump...so from everyone's perspective at the time it would have been overkill. So you can appreciate the thought that went into this, I DID have the timing chain upgraded to a katech when the cam was installed. This recommendation was given, and I supported it, due to timing chain issues that had been seen in the LS3's in vettes. Trust me when I say that I would not have questioned an additional $150 'insurance' part when my car was upgraded. I picked a proven and safe combination for my build. Were it not for a crappy OEM part with a known issue, I would not have a problem with handling this issue entirely on my own.
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04-05-2011, 09:02 PM | #200 | |
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It would be the same as having a perfectly working phone (but with a slight crack from a drop a few months ago) and SUDDENLY it stops working. You will probably be told to purchase a new phone due to the fact that it may have been caused by the drop. It is a bit cheaper of an instance but similar. I know this doesn't help with your "dealerships suck rant" and for that, I apologize.
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04-05-2011, 09:24 PM | #201 | |
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04-06-2011, 05:24 AM | #202 |
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regardless, read the rest of my post, not just the end. you chose to quote the whole thing, please read the whole thing.
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04-06-2011, 07:07 AM | #203 |
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If we all stood together there would be no threads about will this or that void my warranty. Such a PITA...
Not sure why people stick up for dealerships and GM when it comes to them not fixing/replacing a part (especially when there is admittance that it would need fixing/replacing). You play you pay...but we all paid for a working base. If the base is not right...should it not be fixed? To OP - hope it works out. I for one appreciate you posting this and want this to be resolved in your favor.
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04-06-2011, 08:09 AM | #204 |
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as for dealer not wanting to look at it i can tell you from an experience why. I had my diesel looked at recently for a wire fault on the trailer hitch. Well owner before me had some sort of after market light tied into the harness. The dealer would not go further because the aftermarket light was on there. Basically what it boiled down to was some legal mumbo jumbo and the fact that the light might be the reason for it. So I tore off the light and rewired it and it still did it. Come to find out water was in the harness connection and the connector for the trailer lights. So I brought it back and they fixed it. Basically they told me that they are not allowed to touch aftermarket because they could get sued if they break your aftermarket stuff
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04-06-2011, 11:50 AM | #205 | ||
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More than anything, now I'm hoping that I bring awareness to this issue...both for those that are planning on modding your car and risking denial of a warranty claim...and for those whose cars will be going out of warranty in the future. Why should ANY of us get stuck with a very expensive repair for a part that has know issues? Your oil pump could experience the known issue and you'll be left holding the tab for a $1200+ repair bill for just the oil pump. I got lucky, my oil pump failed on an engine restart...no engine damage...however a failed oil pump at the wrong time could have cause MUCH bigger issues and a much larger repair bill. For those that are un-modded and in warranty and will sell before the warranty expires...you have no worries. For everyone else...my goal is awareness of the issue.
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04-06-2011, 11:54 AM | #206 | |
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04-06-2011, 12:39 PM | #207 |
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I know, that here at my dealership (not GM) if you have been as straight forward as you have, and they have been the same. We would have probably goodwilled the work. I cant speak for your dealership but at least they didnt take your bottom end out and stick it in your back seat (just for diagnosis). If I have been course in my previous posts I apologize. I hope everything works out in some way or another for you.
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04-07-2011, 01:06 AM | #208 | |
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I'll have my oil pump repaired at my own expense. My focus now will be on making sure my compadres(all you knuckleheads on this forum) don't face an 'undeserved' expense due to a faulty part. I would have the same fervent approach if it had been a faulty aftermarket part as well.
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04-07-2011, 02:22 AM | #209 | |
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furthermore,attempting to "skew" the facts by presenting an "invalid" argument is tantamount to the highest levels of "idiocy". admit you was wrong,and stop '"alienating" your fellow enthusiasts.."Pay the man" and get it done!"..just sayin! |
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04-07-2011, 06:46 AM | #210 | |
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