[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by BoostedX2

Just FYI...the crate price at Pace Performance for an LT1 is 8998, LT4 is 12879, difference of $3881...and I do not believe the LT4 is a hand built motor...Since the production costs are a lower, it seems entirely possible the Camaro HP with supporting mods (HD rears, halfshafts, clutch, etc)...could be right in line with the Hellcat....Thoughts?

The LT4 engines installed in the Z06/Z07 package are hand assembled at the performance build center in Bowling Green.

[TheSpectre]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Z06 starts at 80k. I'm also going to say 60k to possibly 65 for ZL1.

I'm thinking along these lines, maybe between 65 and 67k.

[American Legend]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

The LT4 engines installed in the Z06/Z07 package are hand assembled at the performance build center in Bowling Green.

Is the LT4 built in both Bowling Green, KY and Tonawanda, NY?

Maybe the final assembly is done in Bowling Green
But the component manufacturering (block, heads, crank, etc) is done in Tonawanda?

Here is a cut/paste from GM's Tonawanda website:
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/c...tonawanda.html



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[RLHMARINES]

I was told this during the plant tour back in August but I did find this article from GM. Seems to say that all Z06 trims that include the performance build experience option is hand built in KY not just the Z07 package.

LovePhenom works at the tonawanda plant if my memory is correct and he may be able to shed some light on this subject matter for us.

http://bowlinggreen.gm.com/Facilitie...rvette-bg.html

[obzidian]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Yep the next ZL1 or Z28 will have the LT4 and not more than 650hp. Just not gonna happen

You know.. initially i was bummed about the notion of the next gen zl1 not packing at the very least 700hp. (Oh the horror!)

But given that at 650hp and let say 200lbs more than a 1ss... the new zl1 at 650hp might have enough to get to the performance goals to, at the very least, match the Hellcat in a straightline if not exceed it.

The mustang is heavier probably over the 4k mark.. not exactly has porky lime the hellcat but, again, maybe enough even with 700hp to keep the zl1 in the race at 650hp.

Current 1ss's are trapping 115 - 116mph. 200hp more is well over 10mph+ over that. Add the weight penalty and we got a race.

[blessedhellride]

Originally Posted by big dave

Is it possible that Chevy is waiting to see what Ford and Dodge will be bringing to the table? There have been rumors of a twin turbo 700 plus hp GT500, and a Hellcat Barracuda that promises to be much lighter in weight than their current cars.
I fear that the next uber-camaro will be held back by it's big brother, the Vette. What will the general do it it's severely outgunned again?

Camaro Engineers are not being held back by Corvette or GM. Their goal is to make the best sports car within a certain price point. So if it ends up being better than the corvette, take for instance the Z/28, then be it.

IMHO, I dont feel it is outgunned. The GT350 barely beats the Z/28 on a significantly aged chassis. I thing everyone will be pleased with the new Z iteration.

[blessedhellride]

Originally Posted by velocity149

IMO, an LT4 in our new light-weight frame, with the new interior, keeping all the gadgets. Add PDR, some aero goodies, racing seats, and better tires/wheels. You've got a 58k car, that's better than the Hellcat or Mustang.

This will option out close to 70k imho. High fifties perhaps for a 1le.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by blessedhellride

Camaro Engineers are not being held back by Corvette or GM. Their goal is to make the best sports car within a certain price point. So if it ends up being better than the corvette, take for instance the Z/28, then be it.

IMHO, I dont feel it is outgunned. The GT350 barely beats the Z/28 on a significantly aged chassis. I thing everyone will be pleased with the new Z iteration.

Camaro is not a Sports Car. It has a rear seat.

[IOMike]

A 1le is more than enough to handle a gt350. SS will already do it with MRC. Lt4 will murder the gt350r

[blessedhellride]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Camaro is not a Sports Car. It has a rear seat.

Ok.......

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by blessedhellride

Ok.......

Traditional definition of a sports car includes two seats.....which the Camaro does not fit.

[blessedhellride]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Traditional definition of a sports car includes two seats.....which the Camaro does not fit.

This is the Camaros html address for the Camaro

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-sports-car.html

sports car

[hotlap]

Merriam-Webster dictionary
Sports car: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

IMO the 14/15 Z/28 or 15 GT350R are truer to the definition of a sports car than a option ladened 14/15 3LT Z51 Corvette.

The capabilities of 2+2 sporty cars has evolved to the point where attitudes are changing. Two doors is more important than two seats and magazine reviews consistently say the SS has crossed into true sports car territory.

[Spellbound]

The back seats in the 16' are seats in name only, lol, they should just call them storage shelves.