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2010 CamaroSS · 08-11-2015, 07:47 PM

For anyone that has done one...can you give me a ballpark price on what it'll cost to take a 376 to a 416? And what upgrades I should make to the internals and drivetrain? Just kicking around the idea for next year...

Thanks!

Taco Time · 08-11-2015, 08:05 PM

I bought a 417 long block from FSP and then sold mine. That saved me about $1,000-$1,500 compared to having my motor built. I priced the forged internals at about $2k and then the work on the block at another $2k. I'd look at TSP's website. Their prices would be a good reference. Or contact Jason from TSP, or Matt from FSP. There's also ERL, and HKE. (There are several others, these are just off the top of my head.)

BOSS_HOSS · 08-11-2015, 08:06 PM

I see you're in Detroit...you have a lot of choices. I just built a 419 LS3...got the short block from Livernois (I'm originally from Windsor and was familiar with them) and built the rest. Couldnt be happier...made 521 to the wheels. I can help with valvetrain choices as I spoke with a ton of builders before deciding. I would give Livernois or Katech to discuss options on building a stroker.

Hard Parker · 08-13-2015, 08:27 AM

Can you have a Stroker VVT motor?

And what would be approximate cost also?

62nalide · 08-13-2015, 10:02 AM

Yes you can have a VVT stroker
Price varies from builder and what rods Pistons etc etc there's budgets ones starting at $4,650 up to $12k

Hard Parker · 08-13-2015, 10:05 AM

Being auto should I just build a new long block and sell old?

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Taco Time · 08-13-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom SS

Being auto should I just build a new long block and sell old?

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Price it out both ways, then decide.

BplumCrazy-SS · 08-18-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom SS

Can you have a Stroker VVT motor?

And what would be approximate cost also?

Why yes you can, I love mine

Hard Parker · 08-18-2015, 08:20 AM

Could you tell me about how much cost was? If you wanna PM me that's fine

I'm more curious how much it was to have a machine shop hone your block. A friend of mine will assist with assembly but also curious how much that was

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BplumCrazy-SS · 08-18-2015, 11:46 AM

I just went with a ERL block I think it was around 4k

Caswell239 · 08-18-2015, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco Time

I bought a 417 long block from FSP and then sold mine. That saved me about $1,000-$1,500 compared to having my motor built. I priced the forged internals at about $2k and then the work on the block at another $2k. I'd look at TSP's website. Their prices would be a good reference. Or contact Jason from TSP, or Matt from FSP. There's also ERL, and HKE. (There are several others, these are just off the top of my head.)

2k for block machining? What all are you getting done?

christianchevell · 08-18-2015, 06:49 PM

do a search for short blocks online and find prices. EBAY has strokers for varying prices. DO go to the websites also of places like livernois, Hennessey, MAST, TSP, etc etc. I ended up getting a 428 for 5 grand new block all forged 11 to 1 , then bought the new windage tray from mast. Clearance-ing a block for the increased stroke and the size of the connecting rods, balancing the crank, installing new seals , honing the cylinders .005 over are just some of the things done to a block. good forged internals can vary in price but generally 2500$ gets good stuff as far as rotating assembly with a bare block for 1200$ ish from g.m. for our block. Add to that the machine work, crating and shipping it adds up. Then also figure in the ls3 block can only be honed .020 over no boring.... its sleeves are cast in to make a "disposable block". And basically our engines are a over hone or two and that's it for the cylinders with no re-sleeving. I ended up getting mine from SAG performance group/custom engine supply Jerry on ebay after talking with him in Angola Indiana. Its price online though jumped shortly after I bought mine to like $400 more....must be busy season in the summer usually makes things a lot more pressed for performance businesses as everyone wants to hot rod in the summer...not the dead of winter..so when you buy as far as season can matter too in price. for upgrades the usual C5r timing chain, higher volume pump if a ls3, ls2 dog bone chain dampener, windage tray for stroker from MAST, you will of course want a cam with three bolt timing gear, new springs, ported heads would be nice also yet it all adds up... Gmpp ported heads can be had for $1200 on summit, or use the stock heads. Many also like to upgrade the rockers trunnions.

Joe@CPR.com · 08-18-2015, 08:24 PM

What are the goals? if going boost I would rather do a 390 or 400 cu motor!!

08-11-2015, 07:47 PM	#1
2010 CamaroSS Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 158	416 ci stroker build For anyone that has done one...can you give me a ballpark price on what it'll cost to take a 376 to a 416? And what upgrades I should make to the internals and drivetrain? Just kicking around the idea for next year... Thanks! __________________

08-11-2015, 08:05 PM	#2
Taco Time Drives: 2014 1SS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Angleton, TX Posts: 1,339 View My Garage	I bought a 417 long block from FSP and then sold mine. That saved me about $1,000-$1,500 compared to having my motor built. I priced the forged internals at about $2k and then the work on the block at another $2k. I'd look at TSP's website. Their prices would be a good reference. Or contact Jason from TSP, or Matt from FSP. There's also ERL, and HKE. (There are several others, these are just off the top of my head.) __________________ Taco's 2014 SS Mods: 417 Stroker \| CAI \| Bo's PTB \| Kooks LTs \| Flowmaster Outlaw Catback \| Night Fury Cam \| Powerbond UDP \| Apex Catch Can \|PRC Ported Heads \|FAST 102 Intake \|Suspension Crap\| Built by J-Rod.

08-11-2015, 08:06 PM	#3
BOSS_HOSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Petawawa, ON Posts: 151	I see you're in Detroit...you have a lot of choices. I just built a 419 LS3...got the short block from Livernois (I'm originally from Windsor and was familiar with them) and built the rest. Couldnt be happier...made 521 to the wheels. I can help with valvetrain choices as I spoke with a ton of builders before deciding. I would give Livernois or Katech to discuss options on building a stroker. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS 1 7/8" Long Tube American Racing Headers w/high flow cats, Borla S-Type Catback Exhaust, Roto-Fab CAI, VMAX Ported Throttle Body, MGW Shifter, JRE 445 Street Cam Package tuned via SCT, Pedders Street 1 Kit.

08-13-2015, 08:27 AM	#4
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	Can you have a Stroker VVT motor? And what would be approximate cost also? __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

08-13-2015, 10:02 AM	#5
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	Yes you can have a VVT stroker Price varies from builder and what rods Pistons etc etc there's budgets ones starting at $4,650 up to $12k __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

08-13-2015, 10:05 AM	#6
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	Being auto should I just build a new long block and sell old? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

08-18-2015, 08:20 AM	#9
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	Could you tell me about how much cost was? If you wanna PM me that's fine I'm more curious how much it was to have a machine shop hone your block. A friend of mine will assist with assembly but also curious how much that was Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

08-18-2015, 11:46 AM	#10
BplumCrazy-SS Drives: 416 w/TH400 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 697	I just went with a ERL block I think it was around 4k __________________ ERL 416 - 12.5 cr, TH400, Custom VVT Cam, PRC 255 heads, NW 102 TB, Aeromotive stealth fuel system, Fast 102 plumbed with a nitrous express direct port kit, BMR 15" conversion kit

08-18-2015, 06:49 PM	#12
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	do a search for short blocks online and find prices. EBAY has strokers for varying prices. DO go to the websites also of places like livernois, Hennessey, MAST, TSP, etc etc. I ended up getting a 428 for 5 grand new block all forged 11 to 1 , then bought the new windage tray from mast. Clearance-ing a block for the increased stroke and the size of the connecting rods, balancing the crank, installing new seals , honing the cylinders .005 over are just some of the things done to a block. good forged internals can vary in price but generally 2500$ gets good stuff as far as rotating assembly with a bare block for 1200$ ish from g.m. for our block. Add to that the machine work, crating and shipping it adds up. Then also figure in the ls3 block can only be honed .020 over no boring.... its sleeves are cast in to make a "disposable block". And basically our engines are a over hone or two and that's it for the cylinders with no re-sleeving. I ended up getting mine from SAG performance group/custom engine supply Jerry on ebay after talking with him in Angola Indiana. Its price online though jumped shortly after I bought mine to like $400 more....must be busy season in the summer usually makes things a lot more pressed for performance businesses as everyone wants to hot rod in the summer...not the dead of winter..so when you buy as far as season can matter too in price. for upgrades the usual C5r timing chain, higher volume pump if a ls3, ls2 dog bone chain dampener, windage tray for stroker from MAST, you will of course want a cam with three bolt timing gear, new springs, ported heads would be nice also yet it all adds up... Gmpp ported heads can be had for $1200 on summit, or use the stock heads. Many also like to upgrade the rockers trunnions. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop Last edited by christianchevell; 08-18-2015 at 07:01 PM.

08-18-2015, 08:24 PM	#13
Joe@CPR.com Account Suspended Drives: 03 vette, 94 trans am, 04 gto Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 995	What are the goals? if going boost I would rather do a 390 or 400 cu motor!!