05-30-2014, 12:24 PM | #1 |
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Cam whine
Went through my second swap and have acquired the dreaded whine. I didn't resurrect the one thread I found from back this last march but want to know how many others have had this issue. Almost sounds like blower whine. A couple past members have attributed it to bad grinds and eliminated it with new cams with high polished finishes for a little more money. The audio clips I found are an exact copy of what I am hearing. I'm running new comp 231/242NF. I will try to edit with a audio clip ASAP.
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05-31-2014, 11:22 AM | #2 |
424 RWHP and counting
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Very curious about this as we will be going under the knife within a month.
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05-31-2014, 01:10 PM | #3 |
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I heard something about beeing a small exhaust leak..
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05-31-2014, 03:33 PM | #4 |
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Exhaust or vacuum leak?
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05-31-2014, 06:17 PM | #5 |
Mark Stanford
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I just put in a LG G6X3 (ground by Comp Cams) and now it whines. Sounds like those clips in the other months old thread you referenced. I'm just gonna drive through though. I have no desire to rip the engine apart again. Next time I do, it'll become a 416 forged stroker.
I took this out during the swap: Livernois stage 2B cam (230/240, .591"/.608" int/exh) with 30K miles. It nor the lifters showed any significant wear. That cam was 2-3 years old, also manufactured by Comp Cams. It did not whine though.
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05-31-2014, 06:44 PM | #6 |
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Exhaust! It seems that 'whine' noise was an exhaust leak in some case. It seems those exhaust leaks are really small n hard to find. I'll link the thread if I find it. It has been confirmed by a couple of well known LSx shops on this forum. Not that is the case with your car, it could be something else.
Didnt read anything about vaccum leak. Theres a bunch of crap/noise going on with cam installs lately. That ain't good. Some are talking about a bad batch of camshafts (steel quality might be the problem). Good luck, keep us updated.
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05-31-2014, 06:56 PM | #7 |
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I don't mean to scare you guys but the guys on ls1tech are saying the cams that whine will lead to lobe and lifter damage eventually. Just FYI
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06-01-2014, 06:08 AM | #8 |
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Did the whine happen immediately after install and start up or was it later down the road.
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06-01-2014, 10:17 PM | #9 |
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Whine was immediate on startup.
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06-01-2014, 10:53 PM | #10 |
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Its the cam causing it. Probably a very fine rough finish on the lobes.
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06-02-2014, 10:27 AM | #11 |
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What the....
So what do they sound like, an old school gear drive?
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06-02-2014, 10:41 AM | #12 | |
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Quote:
10-4, just not as loud.....
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06-05-2014, 07:34 PM | #13 |
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It's Chatter on the lobes. We have fixed quite a few over the last few months. We polish the lobes send the cams back the Chatter is gone.
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06-07-2014, 09:38 AM | #14 |
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I had a new comp cam installed. I have a whine easily heard in gears 1-3. It was hard to hear when the dyno was done. You can hear it while driving, but not at idle. So how long until a failure with this whine?
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